On Tuesday, 26 May 2015 at 17:13:18 UTC, ketmar wrote:
On Tue, 26 May 2015 10:07:08 +0000, Chris wrote:
With Go I have the sinking feeling that it won't be able to
contend with
C++ - or D for that matter. It took off due to Google and a
fool-proof,
easy-to-use infrastructure. But it is way too limited and
limiting to be
useful for more sophisticated tasks. Go's core devs even say
that they
wanted it to be an easy-to-use, middle-of-the-road language
for those
who work in their code mines, focusing on a high output, and
it doesn't
matter, if you have to write the same function or for-loop
with slight
modifications over and over and over again.
and it really doesn't matter... for Rob Pike. he also don't
like shared
libraries and other bells and whistles. sometimes he is right,
but
sometimes he is too radical.
Go is a "java from google", aimed to raise a bunch of easily
replaceable
programmers.
Exactly. As such it cannot be a serious contender as regards
quality and versatility. There will be loads of Go code around,
millions of for-loops on hundreds of thousands of servers, but I
don't think it will go any further. Languages like D that are
flexible and take useful concepts on board are much better suited
for the programming challenges of the future (e.g. sophisticated
high speed data processing algorithms).
The thing is that Java and Python (and soon Go?) hit a brick wall
sooner or later. Huge efforts are made to improve speed,
flexibility and whatnot (JIT, Cython etc). But the real problem
lies in rigid and narrow minded design decisions taken more than
a decade ago. This is why it's still back to C and C++ for
serious stuff.[1]
[1] For more than a decade I've been hearing that with Java
8.x/9.x/10.x this or that issue will be fixed, or that Python
will soon have native performance. It never happens and it never
will. It's time to move on. Take the D train. :-)
so, like java, Go can't be complicated. both Gosling and
Pike are highly talented people, and that talent helps them to
design
dumb languages (which is not as easy as it seems ;-).
