On Tuesday, 30 June 2015 at 08:06:37 UTC, Atila Neves wrote:
In case you don't know what I'm talking about: https://github.com/D-Programming-Language/phobos/pull/3207

Since this is an API issue it's import to get it right the first time. Personally I'm not sure what I prefer (well, I am, but what I actually want isn't syntactically valid D). I think the options so far are:

1) What's there already, namely `shouldEquals`, `shouldBeIn`, etc. 2a) Compile-time strings for operators: `should!"=="`, `should!"in"` 2b) Dicebot's `test!"=="`. `assert` is so much better, I wish we could use that. 3) Composable ones: should.equals, should.not.equals, or another word that isn't "should"
4) Anything else?

I'm not convinced composability brings anything to the table except for editor dot-completion. I don't like the verbosity of what's there now, but my prefererred syntax doesn't work except for the ubiquitous check for equality (`should ==`). Well, the dream would be that `assert(foo == bar)` did what part of this PR does, but that's another story and something that can't be done by a library unless we had AST macros, which we won't. Or Lisp's reader macros, but we won't get those either.

Thoughts? Votes?

Atila

After much thinking and some _incredibly_ hacky attempts to come up with a library solution that can use operators (it was really hacky, I was using `assert()` and making the expression always return true), I came to the conclusion that what I have there already is probably as good as it's going to get bar language changes.

The reason is this: D has very smartly side-stepped C++'s problems with operator overloading and boilerplate by making things like `a >=b` be translated to `a.opCmp(b) >=0`. This is one of them Good Things. The same with `!=`, it's `!(a.opEquals(b)`. Again, good.

But for test asserts, that means that by the time any possible library code gets to handle it there's been a loss of information. There's so way to know whether opEquals was called with or without negation, or if opCmp was called because the user typed `>`, `>=`, `<` or `<=`.

I can make this work:

3.timesTwo.should == 6;
3.timesTwo.should.not == 5;


But anything with opCmp is a no-go. The only other operator that would make sense (to me) to overload is opBinary!("in"), but the naming there is a problem. `should.in`? `should.beIn`? Oh wait, that's not the operator anymore. Which brings me to...

Naming. Any one word that isn't `assert` is... not as good. It always breaks down for one use case or another, and I think what's in the PR is the best I've heard so far on this forum or in the comments. A compile-time string is... ugly and error-prone especially since the most common assertion is for equality and `!"=="` looks too much like `!=`. So, despite the fact that I wrote `shouldBeGreaterThan`, I hate its verbosity and all I really want to write is `assert(a > b)` and get a decent error message.

I don't buy that `should.` is more extensible. For two reasons, first because in all the test frameworks I've seen there aren't that many more types of assertions, and secondly because adding a member function to the struct returned by `should` and adding a new `shouldCamelCase` function is the same amount of work. As for auto-completion, I also see no real difference between the two.

Other than assert being semi-magical, I don't see how it can be any better.

Atila

Reply via email to