On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 14:27:25 UTC, David DeWitt wrote:
Look at Node thats stuff changes like every hour yet ppl still use it.

I'll never understand why anyone would use node.js. The only explanation is that they are hellbent on using javascript for everything? But I guess it is no worse than Php and Perl... so who am I to judge.

Angular 2 is breaking stuff,

Angular 1 users complain loudly, but Google do what they want, and they had to change because of the competition from other frameworks.

changing for the next release, Rust is still changing.

The adoption of Rust is not high AFAICT and library dependencies are not high either, but the Rust devs claim that Rust 1.4 will be "stable and suitable for commercial"? Who knows. I think the current attention is more a sign of people evaluating Rust than actual usage, but I could be wrong. I would wait at least 1 year before adopting it.

anything. I think we have a few decent IDE choices but they prolly just need work. Do ppl really use and IDE with Go/Rust though?

Emacs? I think Dart got some attention because of their rather good Eclipse integration, but it did not lead to a lot of user contribution. I think the Dart IDE primarily attracted people looking to create apps and not infrastructure. Google eventually dropped the Dart IDE (and by that time it had some annoying regressions).

It says a lot that Google does not focus on IDE development for their own langauges, but only focus on the code that can feeds IDEs with semantic information. A good reason is that it is expensive to do well, comes with a never ending maintenance cost, and once you get traction commercial IDEs will blow you out of the water anyway... So, it's an all-for-nothing investment.

Unless the language is the IDE (e.g. graphical diagrams, REPL etc).

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