On 25/09/2015 14:54, Chris wrote:
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 13:13:29 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote:
On Friday, 25 September 2015 at 11:24:04 UTC, Bruno Medeiros wrote:
Dunno if "expect" is the right word, but a language team that puts
IDE support as part of its development effort, will have a big
competitive advantage.
Indeed, when you are production ready having a top notch IDE becomes a
big competitive advantage! I don't know if an IDE attracts people who
work on compilers/debuggers though...
and basic tools). For example, they contracted an external developer
to help them with debugger issues
Sure, excellent debugging support (lldb/gdb) is important.
Having followed this forum for 2 or 3 years now, I doubt whether an IDE
would attract people at this stage. If we had a full-fledged IDE, there
would be other concerns (or excuses). D scares people away. It's too
raw, too bare bones, everything is still moving like hot lava, and maybe
people are intimidated by it, because they feel they might be considered
bad programmers, if they don't know the ins and outs of it.
I agree with the first sentence: "Having followed this forum for 2 or 3
years now, I doubt whether an IDE would attract people at this stage."
Current D IDE's are far from the level of Eclipse CDT or VisualStudio,
but they're not too bad either, they're pretty decent. This wasn't the
case, say 5 years ago. If was to code in D 5 years ago, the issue that
would be most troublesome would be IDE quality. Not so much nowadays. D
IDEs have advanced enough that deficiencies in other tools become more
important instead (this is very subjective of course, and depends also
on one's work environment and area of development.)
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Bruno Medeiros
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