On 10/11/15 10:53 AM, deadalnix wrote:
I'm saying that DIP 25 was implemented and showed that it was too limited. The various experiment with it showed that is wasn't enough (ref counted objects) or required to jump though a lot of hoops for somewhat disappointing result (ref counted arrays). DIP74 is a direct result of DIP25 limitations. I think we should start by acknowledging that the DIP25 experiment was not a success before taking it for granted and proceed. I do think a buffed up version of DIP25 would make DIP74 obsolete (or implementable as a library).
Walter and I are happy with DIP25, and the fact of the matter is we weren't surprised more complementary work is needed. So no, I won't acknowledge what I don't believe.
I'd say the one way to get things looked at seriously is to create a DIP. That's no guarantee it will be accepted but there is a guarantee that our chat at DConf is not sufficient even as a basis for further study.
Andrei
