On Wednesday, 11 November 2015 at 12:19:40 UTC, Walter Bright wrote:
On 11/9/2015 3:26 PM, deadalnix wrote:

I've looked into generating C code as an output format. I found the problems to be endemic and working around them was harder than just generating native code:

1. You're at the mercy of bugs in the C compiler you cannot fix.
2. C leaves quite a lot as "implementation defined", causing endless compatibility issues with various C compilers.
3. C's integral promotion rules.
4. Generating exception handling code for C is miserable and inefficient.
5. Your compiler is going to be slower than C.
6. You'll suffer from endless bug reports caused by a mismatch between your compiler and the user's C compiler, whatever that might be. 7. You cannot generate symbolic debug info in a format that looks like your language's definitions. 8. C's symbols will differ from your program's symbols, again making use of a debugger about like debugging code with an asm debugger, only much worse.
9. The generated C code will look awful.
10. The order of evaluation of C code expressions is implementation defined. 11. Installation problems, again, because you don't control the user's C compiler. 12. If your language supports a basic type that isn't supported by C, tough noogies (think SIMD types). 13. C has no concept of immutability or purity, so no hope of getting the C optimizer to take advantage of that.

... and on ...

Nice list. I was always wondering, if it made sense to generate C.

So D does a better job at interfacing to C/C++, because it uses the same memory model as C/C++, as opposed to outputting C code like Nim. This is actually very clever.

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