On Friday, 25 March 2016 at 03:20:01 UTC, Joakim wrote:
I'm pretty sure Qaston was being sarcastic.
Indeed I was. It was difficult to not mock contempt for lesser
people in that post.
On Thursday, 24 March 2016 at 20:57:22 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad
wrote:
Maybe or maybe not, but meta discussions are important for
changing norms within a forum. If a given tone means that some
women hesitate to join in, it probably also means that a group
of men also hestitate to join in. Adjusting the tone might mean
that more people will participate which would be better for all.
[...]
The thread itself strengthened Karabuta's core message, didn't
it? :-)
Unfortunately, I am not sure if there are anyone in the D
community that would make a good objective moderator, so I am
not sure exactly how it can be fixed other than these
occasional "storming" threads that end with an appeal to
self-moderation.
I find the Donald Trump phenomena to be an unpleasant reminder
that there are certain aspects of our male culture that we men
need to address both in ourselves and in others. I somehow
doubt that a woman could act the same way as Trump does and get
a 40% approval rating for it.
I don't want to walk on eggshels. Incidents happen sometimes on
this forum (as well as everywhere - we're just people) but they
get resolved. The forum self-regulates because it's not yet a
circle jerk, and people being critical of others is one of the
reasons for that. Karabuta apparently can handle criticism - good
for him - the more people like that the better.
It's funny how society "helps" women. Some crazy entitled women
declare "manspreading" an issue. Good daddy - state - intervenes
and bans sitting the wrong way [1]. It's not like women are
adults and can ask a person to move, they're delicate flowers who
need protection from state in cases of SLIGHTEST first world
inconveniences. Entitlement intensifies - now cat-calling is a
problem women can't deal with [2]. Now doctor can't tell a fat
woman that her lifestyle is unhealthy - that's fat shaming [3].
Colleges are not really an example of intellectually healthy
environment [4]. There will never be enough placating, but men
need to step up!
Here's a crazy idea: women can do everything they want. They're
adults. According to Ola women are better collaborators. So
they're better capable of adapting to "male forums", that's what
collaboration is about. I don't think they need strong male
protective arm to handle internet. And they fart - apparently I
need to keep reminding people about that.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/11643052/Manspreading-arrests-the-long-arm-of-the-law-just-invaded-our-personal-space.html
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/391430/why-cat-calling-really-problem-christine-sisto
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/fat-shaming/
http://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2015/11/25/from-megaphones-to-muzzles-free-speech-safe-spaces-and-college-campuses
