On Tuesday, 30 August 2016 at 07:56:06 UTC, Markus wrote:
Most of the (very good) articles in https://dlang.org/articles.html compare D-features with C++. If I want to learn how D templates work, I do not need to know what is bad in C++-Templates.
True. Any C++ programmer interested in this topic will see the differences anyway (or refer them to the section "D for C++ programmers").
From my point of view this misleading for people comming to D first time. D is a mature full featured language by its own. D has its roots in C++ (and C) but is full fledged now and should represent its features and strength with continuously referencing C++ and without this repetitive "without mistakes".
The D community always links D to C++, which makes D look like the eternal "wanna be" or "runner-up". D has developed its own "style" and should no longer be compared to C++ feature by feature. It's useless because it's no longer applicable.
Many young people are looking for alternatives to the boring Java Ecosystem. If you position D in the, from there perspective, grandparents-language C++ edge, you will miss them.
You have a point there. It's been said time and again that trying to win over the C++ crowd (that has put years of work into mastering the language) will not generate many new D users (the odd one, alright). But D can attract users from Python and Java etc. It's time D became a bit more self-confident about its own achievements. It'd make more sense to compare D, in terms of outlook, features and solutions, to other newer languages like Nim, Go or Swift, because those new languages are the real competition, that's where people go when they look for new languages once they're unhappy with Java or Python or whatever.
The constant references to C++ are understandable, though, if you consider that both Walter and Andrei come from a C++ background, so the whole issue of C++ may loom larger in their minds than in yours or mine.
