On Sunday, 5 March 2017 at 01:41:47 UTC, Moritz Maxeiner wrote:
On Sunday, 5 March 2017 at 00:58:44 UTC, Anthony wrote:
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I've learned the basics of D. I read the tutorial book, as I
would call it, and some further tutorials on templates and
other cool things. I just don't feel comfortable investing a
significant effort acquainting myself further with the
language without some guarantee that the feature will be
completely supported eventually.
What do you consider complete support in this context?
druntime, phobos, both? You can definitely write an application
where all heap memory (after the druntime initialization) is
allocated (and deallocated) deterministically, provided you
don't use language builtins that require GC allocations
(druntime) or stay away from other people's code that allocates
using the GC (this includes those parts of phobos).
std.experimental.allocator even provides a nice, generic
interface for this (you'll want to use one of the allocators
that aren't GCAllocator, though).
Considering D development is - AFAIK - not primarily driven by
people paid for their work I doubt you'll get a guarantee on
any future development, though.
In a way, I'm picking a tool for my toolbelt, and C++ and D
are competing tools.
If possible, don't pick one, pick both (and to be even more
annoying: also pick some Lisp, Erlang, Haskell, and Rust to get
exposed to many different types of abstraction).
D looks like C++ 2.0, but it's missing a critical function of
it as well. So, I'm conflicted.
If you're referring to deterministic memory management, it's
not; the function is there, it's just up to you to actually use
it and not invoke the GC.
If you're referring to not all of phobos' functions being
compatible with deterministic memory management (as opposed to
stdc++), then yes, that's an ongoing effort.
Not having it guaranteed is understandable, albeit slightly
disappointing.
I would pick both, if I had the time to do so. I'm a college
student; with that in mind, I can only really learn one right now
without giving up most of my free time. I think it'd be stressful
if I tried.
I was referring to phobos. I feel intimidated by the idea of
trying to code some of the functions of phobos myself in a no-gc
manner. I'm sure I'd run into things way out of my knowledge
domain.
