On Saturday, 15 April 2017 at 23:11:42 UTC, Stanislav Blinov
wrote:
On Saturday, 15 April 2017 at 21:38:24 UTC, cym13 wrote:
On Saturday, 15 April 2017 at 20:20:49 UTC, Stanislav Blinov
wrote:
On Saturday, 15 April 2017 at 20:12:41 UTC, cym13 wrote:
On Saturday, 15 April 2017 at 20:04:13 UTC, Jonas Drewsen
wrote:
This has been proposed before, and I still don't see the
added value compared to:
auto a=7;
writeln(a, " times 3 is ", a*3);
besides adding compiler complexity, language complexity and
parsing complexity which leaves room for more bugs to be
invented. I'm a bit more harsh than I could be, but if this
simple question has no clear answer I don't see why it sould
make it into the language.
Try a different context:
auto a = 7;
import std.format;
auto str = format("%s times 3 is %s", a, a*3);
//or
import std.conv;
auto str = text(a, " times 3 is ", a*3);
//or
auto str = $"{a} times 3 is {a*3}";
This tells me nothing. What value does it add really? Do we
need yet another way to make a damn string? There is value in
having a clear, unique interface. I know it's nowhere near
unique right now but that only more reasons not to add yet
another method to do what can already be done with 3 (!) more
keystrokes.
How about... it removes an import or two? Roughly 41.5% of
Phobos (module-wise) depends on either format() or text(). And
I didn't even include the ~ and .stringofs in the search. Quick
visual scan suggests that a good portion of that could be
replaced with the proposed solution, removing the dependency.
Talk about "parsing complexity"...
You have a peculiar way of asking for a clear answer. There are
ways to vent frustration without inflicting it on others, you
know.
Removing imports is a good point, the first concrete one to be
mentionned. I'm not sure it matters that much though as I think
those imports are generic enough that I believe they would be
imported anyway, but it's a real point.
For parsing complexity I'm not talking about quantity actually,
maybe I should say "parser complexity" instead.
There again, all I want is a solid rational. This is far from
being a little change, if the only things it brings are "looks
nicer" and "one less import in some cases" I'm sure you'll agree
that the case is pretty thin. It won't ever be my call but bear
with me challenging the idea. I'm not venting frustration, and
I'm not being insulting or anything, just clear and explicit with
what problem I see.
