On Saturday, 14 October 2017 at 22:43:33 UTC, Adam Wilson wrote:
On 10/7/17 14:08, Laeeth Isharc wrote:
In a polyglot environment, D's code generation and
introspection
abilities might be quite valuable if it allows you to write
core
building blocks once and call them from other languages
without too much
boilerplate and bloat. One could use SWIG, but...
Oh dear, I seem to have accidentally set off a firestorm.
Personally, I think there are better places to focus our energy
than worrying about what the users of other languages think. We
like D, that should be enough for us. The last line was
somewhat tongue-in-cheek. There is no way we're going to
convert C#/Java users either, and unlike C/C++ we cannot easily
inter-operate with them.
If we can convert Pascal users, why won't some C# and Java
programmers be receptive to D? Plenty of people have approached
D from Java:
https://dlang.org/blog/2017/09/06/the-evolution-of-the-accessors-library/
https://dlang.org/blog/2017/08/11/on-tilix-and-d-an-interview-with-gerald-nunn/
https://github.com/intellij-dlanguage/intellij-dlanguage/
(Kingsley came from Java).
Why can't we easily interop with Java and C#? I didn't find
interop with Java so bad for what I was doing (embedding a Java
library via the JVM with callbacks to D code), and Andy Smith
found similar.
http://dconf.org/2015/talks/smith.pdf
(towards the end)
C# interop for what I am doing sees easy enough. (I will
generate C# wrappers for D structs and functions/methods).
This work wasn't open-sourced, and nor did Microsoft send out a
press release about their use of D in the COM team. But I spoke
to the author in Berlin (maybe you did too), and it wasn't so
much work to make it useful:
http://www.lunesu.com/uploads/ModernCOMProgramminginD.pdf
Instead of worrying about how to get more people to come from a
specific language. People will come if they see an advantage in
D so lets try to provide as many advantages as possible. :)
Yes - agree with this.
