On Tuesday, 7 November 2017 at 19:46:04 UTC, Joakim wrote:
Not at all, it makes things easier certainly, but there's a reason why mobile devs always test on the actual devices, because there are real differences.

Mostly with low level stuff in my experience.

Now, they're not going to dump 10-15% of sales because the Mac's a fading business, they'll just keep milking it till it doesn't make any sense, as I already said.

Heh, it would be very bad management to take focus off Macs. I doubt Jobs would have allowed that to happen, but as I said, I don't really trust the current management at Apple. So who knows what they will do?

You are thinking too much short term here IMHO. The mobile sector is rather volatile.

Maybe I'm just very adaptable, but I've increasingly come to the conclusion that smaller works fine, especially with the extremely high ppi on mobile displays these days.

Small tablets are ok, for reading, but programming really requires more screen space. Although I guess one external + the builtin one is ok too.

I guess it would be possible to create a docking station for phones that was able to transfer heat away from the device so that you could run at higher speed when docked, but then the phone calls and you have to unplug it or use a headset…

multi-window UIs built in, which as I said before is starting to happen with Android 7.0 Nougat.

I should take a closer look on modern Android… Sounds interesting.

happened. MS, Nokia, and others linked in this thread clearly thought as you did about mobile, yet they completely missed the boat. Clearly they misjudged the scale, scope, and timing of that coming mobile tidal wave.

Yes, but as I said, not many players could have countered this. Microsoft certainly if they had bought up Nokia right away. Nokia alone… probably not. HP or Sony? On a lucky day…

Yes, Apple made a big push, _at the right time_, while everybody else didn't. Google and Samsung followed fast, to their credit, while everybody else fell to the wayside.

Well, but Android units did get a bad reputation in beginning.

A good example for what? They started a mobile OS from nothing and grew it to two billion-plus users today, which you implied only those with a "starting point" could do.

The Android makers had a real problem with quality and making a profit. Samsung managed to make a profit, but many others struggled. And it took a long time before Android's reputation caught up with iOS. Most businesses would not have been willing to make that software investment and sustain it until the OS platform would reach a competitive level.

So I don't think many could have followed Apple there. Apple recycled a lot of their prior work and experiences. Microsoft could have, sure, and I am sure they regret getting in late. But, they were late with embracing Internet too, so they have always followed their own mindset… and only reluctantly follow new trends.

But frankly, I don't think many giants would start with a GPL code base like Linux.

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