On Thursday, 23 August 2018 at 15:48:00 UTC, Chris M. wrote:
On Thursday, 23 August 2018 at 15:14:07 UTC, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
On 8/23/18 9:32 AM, Steven Schveighoffer wrote:
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Actually, thinking about this, the shortest lifetime is dictated by how it is called, so there is no valid way to determine which one makes sense when compiling the function.

In order for this to work, you'd have to attribute it somehow. I can see that is likely going to be way more cumbersome than it's worth.

If I had to design a specific way to allow the common case to be easy, but still provide a mechanism for the uncommon cases, I would say:

1. define a compiler-recognized attribute (e.g. @__sink).
2. If @__sink is applied to any parameter, that is effectively the return value. 3. In the absence of a @__sink designation on non-void-returning functions, it applies to the return value. 4. In the absence of a @__sink designation on void returning functions, it applies to the first parameter.
5. Inference of @__sink happens even on non-templates.
6. If @__sink is attributed on multiple parameters, you assume all return parameters are assigned to all @__sink parameters for the purposes of verifying lifetimes are not exceeded.

Ugly to specify, but might actually be pretty non-intrusive to use.

-Steve

This is more a general reply to the thread.

If I think I'm getting a good grasp on the issue here, it seems like something Rust already solved with lifetime annotations. Could they or something similar be leveraged for D as well?

https://doc.rust-lang.org/1.9.0/book/lifetimes.html

Current solution just seems too specific and very restrictive.

Heck, now that I'm looking at it, DIP25 seems like a more restricted form of Rust's lifetimes. Let me know if I'm just completely wrong about this, but

@safe ref int identity(return ref int x) {
    return x; // fine
}

would basically be like (pseudosyntax)

@safe ref'a int identity(ref'a int x) {
    return x; // fine
}

Maybe the more sane thing would be a syntax that visually ties them together as above. Obviously we're looking at possibly breaking changes, but how widespread would they be?

void betty(ref'a scope int* r, scope'a int* p); // syntax is not so nice since I just arbitrarily stuck them on different keywords, but that's besides the point here

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