On Sun, 26 Aug 2018 at 12:10, RhyS via Digitalmars-d <digitalmars-d@puremagic.com> wrote: > > On Sunday, 26 August 2018 at 18:18:04 UTC, drug wrote: > > It's rather funny to see how one man who forced to program in > > programming language he doesn't like can triggers comments from > > lurkers that they don't like D too. No offense. > > D is in great form and is getting much better and better and > > I'd like to ask D community to continue their good work and > > make D great again. > > Most people lurking here are people that WANT to use D but are > offset by the issues. D is not bad as a language but it has > issue. Their are issues at every step in the D eco system and > each of those create a barrier. > > Its those same issues that never seem to get solved and are > secondary citizens compared to adding more "future" features or > trying to Up-one C++... > > Its not BetterC or static if or whatever new feature of the > month, that brings in new people. You can advertise D as much as > you want, but when people download D and very few people stay, is > that not a hint... > > The fact that only recently the D Poll pointed out that most > people are using VSC and not VS. I am like "what, you only figure > that out now". Given the mass popularity of VSC... That alone > tells you how much the mindset of D is stuck in a specific eco > space.
Industry tends to use VS, because they fork-out for the relatively expensive licenses. I work at a company with a thousand engineers, all VS users, D could find home there if some rough edges were polished, but they *absolutely must be polished* before it would be taken seriously. It is consistently expressed that poor VS integration is an absolute non-starter. While a majority of people (hobbyists?) that take an online poll in an open-source community forum might be VSCode users, that doesn't mean VS is a poor priority target. Is D a hobby project, or an industry solution? I vote the latter. I don't GAF about peoples hobbies, I just want to use D to _do my job_. Quality VS experience is critical to D's adoption in that sector. Those 1000 engineers aren't reflected in your poll... would you like them to be?