On Friday, 7 September 2018 at 05:31:22 UTC, Mike Franklin wrote:
On Wednesday, 5 September 2018 at 07:00:49 UTC, Joakim wrote:
The D foundation is planning to add a way for us to pay for
changes we'd like to see in D and its ecosystem, rather than
having to code everything we need ourselves or find and hire a
D dev to do it:
"[W]e’re going to add a page to the web site where we can
define targets, allow donations through Open Collective or
PayPal, and track donation progress. Each target will allow us
to lay out exactly what the donations are being used for, so
potential donors can see in advance where their money is
going. We’ll be using the State of D Survey as a guide to
begin with, but we’ll always be open to suggestions, and we’ll
adapt to what works over what doesn’t as we go along."
https://dlang.org/blog/2018/07/13/funding-code-d/
I'm opening this thread to figure out what the community would
like to pay for specifically, so we know what to focus on
initially, whether as part of that funding initiative or
elsewhere. I am not doing this in any official capacity, just
a community member who would like to hear what people want.
Please answer these two questions if you're using or would
like to use D, I have supplied my own answers as an example:
1. What D initiatives would you like to fund and how much
money would you stake on each? (Nobody is going to hold you to
your numbers, but please be realistic.)
I'd be willing to pay at least $100 each for these two:
https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19159
https://issues.dlang.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18788
Quite honestly, though, I probably wouldn't do it myself for
$100. These bounties really need to be $500 or more.
If D is to be funded by individuals, there needs to be some way
to organize individuals around common interest and raise funds
for those tasks.
Yes, that's the point of the funding targets mentioned in the
quoted blog post and this thread, to see who's interested in
collectively pooling towards certain common goals. Obviously no
one's person contribution would be enough to get any non-trivial
goal funded.
Given the anemic response to this thread and the Opencollective
so far, I suspect we wouldn't raise much though. OTOH, maybe the
people who would pay don't read the forum.
For example, the D Language Foundation has a "Corporate Bronze"
offer on its OpenCollective page that includes 3 priority bug
fixes per month for $12,000. If we could get 24 like-minded
people, willing to contribute $500 each, and vote on priority
bugs, that could potentially get things moving in the right
direction. That would be 1 1/2 bugs per contributor. I don't
think that's bad. I'd be willing to join such a collective if
I got at least 1 priority bug fix out of it.
Yes, these types of paid bugfix schemes are what I describe above
too.
Even better, IMO, it'd be nice if the "Individual Sponsor" or
"Organizational Sponsor" offers on the OpenCollective page
included at least 1 priority bug fix.
That would make sense for the latter offer.
Btw, if anyone is under any illusion that I'm offering to
implement any of this for the money, I have zero interest in
doing this work. I _am_ interested in paying others to do it. I
may tinker with enabling the GC on the DMD frontend some day, but
that wouldn't be for any bounties, just OSS.