On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 14:08:15 -0400, Nick Sabalausky <a...@a.a> wrote:

"retard" <r...@tard.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:i1i1se$or...@digitalmars.com...

Php is basically a toy example of a language. Nobody uses it for serious
work. You just think your work is serious, but it isn't. Php shows what
the world would look like if it was created by an "intelligent designer".


I want to have that enlarged, framed and mounted on my wall.

("That's what she said!" Ha h..umm...no...sorry...)

When I first read "Nobody uses it for serious work." I was about to hit
Reply and object, but the next sentence hit the nail right on the head.
*I've* used PHP plenty of times simply because I had to, but when you get
down to it, none of that (and really no web app in general IMO) *really*
qualifies as serious work. We may get paid to make it, but it's all just
pointless dinky shit (and most of it's made by amateurs anyway).

Just for fun, how would you define a serious language?

1. Major major websites use it (facebook is one example, there are many more).
2. There are lots of books about it.
3. people make serious money doing it, not just play money.
4. major IDEs support it (I use netbeans, and probably would be lost without it).
5. The documentation is complete and well written.
6. It supports interfaces to many major technologies (many databases, apache, pdf, etc.)

I'd agree that php has some serious drawbacks, I can't tell you how many times I miss static typing when working on a daily basis (try forgetting to use $this when writing an object). But it's just another language, one that works, and is well defined. I'd also agree that there are lots of non-serious developers using it, which means the quality of any one piece of code has a better chance of being crappy than a piece of C++ code, but I've seen a lot of crappy C++ code too.

-Steve

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