retard schrieb:
Thu, 09 Sep 2010 05:55:46 +0200, Daniel Gibson wrote:
retard schrieb:
Wed, 08 Sep 2010 19:15:15 -0700, Walter Bright wrote:
retard wrote:
You must be young then. I got my first CD-ROM drive with my Pentium
75. The first 1x external CD-ROM drives were pretty expensive. I
think one used to cost around $600..800.
Eh, my first CD-ROM drive was $1100 or so.
Was it that expensive? Anyway, the world has changed so much. You can
probably find a decent dvd+rw drive for $30 or $40 now. My original
point was that people like us who listened to CDs in the 80's quite
likely still possess real hi-fi cd players or integrated cd/amp/tuner
systems. These systems are unaffected by the cd copy protection
methods.
Not necessarily - I've heard of "copy protections" (they should actually
be called listening preventions) that caused trouble on old as well as
some new CD players (not CD ROM drives). Also Car CD player seem to be
massively affected by such problems. Why the hell should someone buy a
CD he can't listen to in his car?!
Ah, true. The reason (IIRC) was that the DRMed CDs also had a data cd TOC
or multiple sessions or something like that. If the car CD player
supported MP3 CDs via the data cd format, that made it "too intelligent"
to play the disks.
Yeah, and there also was this tric with manipulating the CIRC checksums,
resulting in read errors that are ignored/interpolated by (most?) CD
players, but CD ROM drives fail and apparently car radios fail as well.
Those "CDs" are not CDs anyway, because they violate the red book standard.
