On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 04:13:34 -0400, Don <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:

Don wrote:
The docs currently state that:

PROPOSAL:
Drop the first requirement. Only one requirement is necessary:
 A pure function does not read or write any global mutable state.


Wow. It seems that not one person who has responded so far has understood this proposal! I'll try again. Under this proposal:

If you see a function which has mutable parameters, but is marked as 'pure', you can only conclude that it doesn't use global variables. That's not much use on it's own. Let's call this a 'weakly-pure' function.

However, if you see a function maked as 'pure', which also has only immutable parameters, you have the same guarantee which 'pure' gives us as the moment. Let's call this a 'strongly-pure' function.

The benefit of the relaxed rule is that a strongly-pure function can call a weakly-pure functions, while remaining strongly-pure.
This allows very many more functions to become strongly pure.

The point of the proposal is *not* to provide the weak guarantee. It is to provide the strong guarantee in more situations.

I just thought of something -- we may be defining the common case. For example, D breaks from the default of shared globals in C because most of the time, variables *aren't* shared. When I first heard of shared, I thought surely Walter was losing his mind. Why would shared not be the default, clearly as it's done in C! But after having used the language, I see that it would have been a huge issue if I had to mark everything as unshared.

If we can define weakly pure functions this way, they most likely will be way more common than unpure functions. I know I avoid accessing global variables in most of my functions. Think about a range, almost all the methods in a range can be weakly pure. So that means you need to mark every function as pure.

Would it not be less tedious to mark unpure functions instead of pure functions? Or am I just going too far with this?

OR, maybe we could say, mark strongly pure functions as pure, mark functions that access global data as something else (global?) and weakly pure functions just aren't marked.

-Steve

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