"BCS" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]... > Hello Eric, > >> On 10/14/2010 8:24 PM, Vladimir Panteleev wrote: >> >>> On Fri, 15 Oct 2010 03:06:18 +0300, Nick Sabalausky <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> "File" menu's greyed out and don't work. >>>> >>> Turn on JavaScript. :D >>> >>> *ducks* >>> >> I wish I had a dollar for every time Nick finds something on the web >> that doesn't work without JavaScript :) >>
Heh :) But it's actually kinda surprising just how often I'm able to fudge my way through a site that's clearly designed for JS-only even without actually turning JS on. Rank-and-file web devs often seriously underestimate just how much can be done, and done rather easily and to good effect, without a single line of in-browser scripting like JS or Flash. Fairly recent example: A guy I've been doing some web work for sent me some page prototypes. They had graphic-link buttons with rollover effects and a data-submission form. The link rollovers were done in JS (auto-generated by Dreamweaver - yea, "ick"), and the data-submission form was done in Flash (Is there anything Adobe *can* do right?). I kinda balked at it, but he didn't see anything wrong with it. So I started from scratch, redid the rollovers in CSS2 (and you probably already know what I think of CSS ;) ), and redid the form in HTML. Took mere minutes (at least those particular parts did - the CSS layout took forever, until I decited to toss in a few <table>s). Showed them to him and all of a sudden he was thrilled with how much better both of them worked. And this wasn't another "you'll never pull my 10-year-old 32-bit box even from my cold dead hands" guy like me. Quite the opposite - this is one of those obessively upgrading "always gotta have the latest and greatest" sorts of people, so his hardware performance and software versions were way up there and he still noticed a significant improvement. > > If you did, you'd have enough money to develop something that wasn't the > disaster that JS-in-the-browser turned into. Now I like that idea!
