On 11/7/10 11:34 PM, spir wrote:
On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 19:12:02 -0600
Andrei Alexandrescu<[email protected]> wrote:
On 11/7/10 1:54 PM, retard wrote:
Sun, 07 Nov 2010 19:39:09 +0200, so wrote:
Andrei's stance is, either a library addon or ship D without that
feature. D's library already contains both tuples and algebraic data
types. They're simple to use, almost like in Python. The reason for
library addons isn't that builtin features make less sense, the reason
is that TDPL is already out and we can't improve the language in any
radical way.
Lets talk about solution in this thread more than politics, politics
"never" improve anything.
There was this other thread here -- "why a part of d community do not
want to go to d2?"
One reason is, there's no good process for handling these feature
proposals. Walter attends useless bikeshed discussions and spreads
misinformation about things he doesn't get, Andrei has excellent
knowledge of languages but he often prefers staying in the background.
There are these DIPs in wiki4d. Were they useful? At least it seems that
this thread is leading nowhere. Half of the people don't know what non-
nullable means.
In all honesty, the distribution of those who don't understand non-null
is about equal across the proponents and the opponents :o).
Perhaps a great help would be to approach it so-to-say backwards: option types
à la Haskell
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Option_type
That would be Algebraic.
(The fact that our pointers are nullable by default makes it difficult to
imagine the opposited pov, I guess.)
Agreed.
Andrei
