On Tue, 2010-12-14 at 17:07 +0100, Andrej Mitrovic wrote: > On 12/14/10, Russel Winder <[email protected]> wrote: [ . . . ] > > But isn't this exactly what Apt and Yum are for? > > Yes, but I'm talking about having something platform-independent.
As it stands, in the Ubuntu and Debian worlds definitely, in the Fedora/RHEL worlds I suspect, configuration management in "The Great Problem" for language, especially Java. The operating system itself has a configuration management system that generally fails to work for specific languages, and where the languages have language specific systems it tends to lead to parochialism, if the system works at all. Windows and Mac OS X solve this problem by abdicating and not solving this problem, requiring every application to ship all the dependencies it needs into its own subsystem. On the face of it there seems to be no practical solution to the problem as the operating systems people are unlikely to consider alternative solutions to the ones they currently have, and the language people seem to need platform independence more than parsimonious systems. Is it certain that it is not possible to work with Apt, Yum, Port, Fink, MacPorts, etc.? I for one find it incredibly annoying that Debian/Ubuntu and Java are seemingly unable to work together sanely. And C/C++ isn't much better. :-(( -- Russel. ============================================================================= Dr Russel Winder t: +44 20 7585 2200 voip: sip:[email protected] 41 Buckmaster Road m: +44 7770 465 077 xmpp: [email protected] London SW11 1EN, UK w: www.russel.org.uk skype: russel_winder
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