On Mon, 27 Dec 2010 13:42:50 -0700, Guilherme Vieira <[email protected]> wrote:

On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 4:35 PM, bearophile <[email protected]>wrote:

Through Reddit I have found a link to some information about the Clay
language, it wants to be (or it will be) a C++-class language, but it's not
tied to C syntax. It shares several semantic similarities with D too. It
looks like a cute language:
https://github.com/jckarter/clay/wiki/

Some small parts from the docs:

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In Clay this:
https://github.com/jckarter/clay/wiki/Syntax-desugaring

static for (a in ...b)
   c;

is equivalent to:

{
   ref a = <first element of b>;
   c;
}
{
   ref a = <second element of b>;
   c;
}
/* ... */

I have an enhancement request about this for D:
http://d.puremagic.com/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=4085

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The part about Safer pointer type system is very similar to what I did ask for D, and it looks similar to what Ada language does (for Clay this is just
a proposal, not implemented yet, but Ada is a rock-solid language):
https://github.com/jckarter/clay/wiki/Safer-pointer-type-system

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This is something that I want for D too, it's important:

>Jonathan Shapiro (of BitC) makes an excellent argument that, in a systems language, it is often undesirable to depend on the whims of an ill-specified
optimizer to convert abstract code into efficient machine code. The BitC
specification thus includes the idea of guaranteed optimizations, to allow code to be written in a high-level style with predictably low or nonexistent runtime cost (link). [...] Because Clay seeks to support systems programming
with high-level abstraction, certain patterns should be guaranteed to be
optimized in a certain way, instead of being left to the whims of LLVM or a C compiler. Additional optimizations should not be prevented, however. [...] It should be possible to specify that one or more of these optimizations is required, and have the compiler raise an error when they cannot be applied
for some reason.<

https://github.com/jckarter/clay/wiki/Guaranteed-optimizations

Bye,
bearophile


+1 for static for and guaranteed optimizations. Can we put it in the
wishlist?

If you followed the bug report, you'd find D already has a way of doing static foreach.

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