On 2/4/11 3:15 AM, Don wrote:
Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 2/3/11 7:56 PM, BLS wrote:
I got more and more the feeling that the D2 monster was made just for
ranges. The smart and elegant D1 design is definitely dead an gone. I
think I am not the only one who would prefer a D1 plus instead of D2.
bjoern
All in all it's fair to say that if you hate ranges you're going to
dislike D2, and there's little that can be done about that.
Yes, but...
I think we really, really, need to work on making Phobos less daunting.
Right now, we have most of the functionality. But some things are
unnecessarily complicated -- some are historical, some are workarounds
for compiler bugs (many of which are now fixed), some are rough edges in
the language definition which could probably be fixed.
We don't have many examples; many discussions and explanations assume
too much familiarity with terminology and concepts from functional
programming languages; and probably most importantly, we don't have
tutorials.
All these things can and will be fixed. But right now, the learning
curve is horrible, and it's a major turnoff for people.
Absolutely. There are some major strides we have and can make, enabled
by recent bug fixes and language improvements. For example a lot of
things are made considerably easier by auto returns. Then I think
relaxing the rules for eponymous templates would tremendously reduce
code size for a variety of templates. Finally, eliminating bugs and
undue limitations from the language will again allow us to simplify
things a lot.
With documentation and tutorials I am confident the entire community
will help in time.
Andrei
