Max Samukha: > I am amazed at how Java guys still prefer their crappy, noisy and > efficient way. And sadly they represent the majority.
Well, compared to C++, a Java programmer needs to keep in mind far less arbitrary details, that if forgotten cause many bugs in C++ programs. Java compiler is strict and catches many bugs, it works well enough, and you just need small jars to distribute the compilation result. Today Java works on many machines, on 32 and 64 bit well enough, there are tons of libraries, Java programmers that you are able to hire, tons of tools to edit/debug/improve Java code, Java is today pretty fast and its GC is first world class. There are even other languages like Scala and Jthon that run on the JVM and interoperate with it and its libs. Given all that, the verbose syntax of Java becomes a minor thing. Java is full of faults and downsides, but most other languages/language ecosystems are worse. Bye, bearophile
