There are not that many programs that operate automatically and in the past
I think there was a "common" view by many that you could not do this in
software. Well, Rick, KN6KB proved that you can do it and do it amazingly
well. But it apparently was not an easy task and took a lot of work.

I doubt that Winlink (the Original Winlink "classic" that is used as the
basis for the NTS/D and MARS digital systems) have this feature, but perhaps
Winlink 2000 will have it with the sound card mode if Rick can return to
work on SCAMP later this year. Also, the same issue holds true for the new
automatic messaging systems such as the new JNOS2 and PSKmail programs as
well as a few others.

The general attitude of the Winlink 2000 group has not been very positive
toward sharing code with others of the amateur community.  It does not mean
they have to share all their code, but at least help others from having the
reinvent the wheel over and over. The one exception is that KN6KB has
indicated a willingness to put some parts of the SCAMP protocol into GPL
once it is refined. Of course some of this stuff comes from GPL'd Linux
sources in the first place.

The Winlink 2000 administrator recently went on record saying that ...
"Winlink Classic, built for Windows 3.1, is no longer supported and has not
been supported since 1998. The great mistake was not putting a time bomb in
that software. Lesson learned."

Needless to say, it would be difficult to imagine a more hostile attitude to
the amateur community who uses the Winlink system, e.g., the NTS/D and MARS
networks digital networks.

My understanding is that is not possible to improve on this version of
Winlink because the source code is being intentionally withheld from further
software development in the amateur community so that no one could improve
it. The thinking was that everyone would be forced to move to Winlink 2000.
So even if you had a solution, you would not be able to implement it with
the "Original" Winlink system.

73,

Rick, KV9U



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Andrew J. O'Brien
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 15:05
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] I thought Auto Pactor was Illegal?


But , Rick, why has something similar not been added to other modes?
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick Williams
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 2:55 PM
Subject: RE: [digitalradio] I thought Auto Pactor was Illegal?


As mentioned earlier, it has already been done. The hope is that Rick, KN6KB
will eventually share the routines he developed for SCAMP with other
developers of automated software.

If you have ever tried out SCAMP you will realize that it is even more of a
watchdog than a human operator. A number of times when I would have gone
ahead and tried to connect on what superficially appeared to be a clear
area, the program would not operate. I would then notice a faint carrier
within the passband or other minor signal. It seemed to be able to ignore
most QRN.

73,

Rick, KV9U



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