Bob N4HY, could you elaborate on the difficulties you encountered 
when trying to implement Pactor?

   73,

      Dave, AA6YQ


--- In [email protected], Robert McGwier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Dave:
> 
> The technical specification is incomplete.  You may not take their 
> documents and implement a compatible system (been there, done 
> that, got the tire tracks on my back).  They have not made these
> specifications public to my knowledge anywhere, including the
> F.C.C.   As such, I do not see why it is not an illegal scrambler
> in the U.S. 
> 
> Bob
> N4HY
> 
> 
> Dave Bernstein wrote:
> > I don't think the problem lies with SCS, Doc. First, they have 
> > provided descriptions of the Pactor 2 and Pactor 3 protocols; 
> > the absence of alternate implementations is more likely the
> > result of constraints imposed by Windows than technical
> > obfuscation by SCS.  

> > Second, Pactor 2 and Pactor 3 in keyboard-to-keyboard mode are, 
> > from a QRM-generating perspective, no different than RTTY or
> > AMTOR -- there are operators on both ends listening to the
> > frequency, so QRMing an ongoing QSO is unlikely.
> >
> > The problem is semi-automatic operation without busy frequency 
> > detection. This results in QRM to ongoing QSOs, and there's no
> > way to communicate with the station generating the QRM even if
> > you happen to have the right modem because the guilty station is 
> > automaticly controlled! This is the case with semi-automatic 
> > operation in CW, RTTY, or PSK -- the fact that Pactor 2 or
> > Pactor 3 are being used by many message passing services
> > (because they are fast and error-free) is actually irrelevant.
> >
> > Enforcement would certainly be easier if we could eliminate the 
> > need to decode every protocol out there. Requiring the 
> > participants of each digital mode QSO -- whether attended, semi-
> > automatic, or automatic -- to periodically identify in a common,
> > easily-decoded modulation and format would greatly facilitate
> > self-policing.
> >
> >    73,
> >
> >       Dave, AA6YQ
> >
> >
> >   
> 
> 
> -- 
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> NJQRP/AMQRP, QRP ARCI, QCWA, FRC. ARRL SDR Wrk Grp Chairman
> Laziness is the number one inspiration for ingenuity.  Guilty as
> charged!







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