I plead ignorance (much!). Can you tell me how one measures "Robustness" 
and assigns a discreet value to it? It seems to refer to communications 
reliability, but I don't see how that can be assigned a discrete value, 
with the inherent random factors that are present.
Help
Bill-W4BSG

At 10:02 AM 7/11/2006 -0500, you wrote:

>Hopefully someone can answer this question.
>
>What is the robustness (measured) and throughput for the newer digital modes
>used for keyboard-to-keyboard operation.
>
>I know what it is for PSK31, PSK63, MFSK8/16, MT63...but what about all the
>other modes?
>Can someone provide a list?
>
>I would think that for any amateur radio communnications you would want to
>use the most robust mode with good keyboard-to-keyboard as well as file
>throughput.
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>The two modes that come to my mind are MFSK16 and MT63.  MT63 might not be a
>good choice because of the latency.  G4HPE has shown that MFSK16 is almost
>as robust as MT63 (in some cases perhaps more robust) and certainly is
>faster than most amateur radio operators can type.
>
>Thus to answer the instant question, it would seem that the mode to use for
>Ham ALE standards for digi text keyboarding, when QSOs are started via ALE
>selective calling would be one that is the most robust (very robust) and has
>a throughput that is faster than most amateur radio operators can type.
>
>73,
>
>Walt/K5YFW
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 1:52 AM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: [digitalradio] Initiating QSO with ALE then PSK31 or Olivia
>Texting, Other Traffic
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>There is discussion going now on the HFLINK GROUP about
>using some convenient Ham ALE standards for digi text
>keyboarding, when QSOs are started via ALE selective calling.
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>For example: HF ALE initiates the contact, then the
>operators switch over to BPSK31 at 1500Hz audio center
>frequency for texting.
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>Other digi are being discussed, such as Olivia.
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>For more information about ALE (HF Automatic Link Establishment)
>http://hflink.com
>
>HFLINK GROUP:
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/hflink
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>73---Bonnie KQ6XA
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>Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to  Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org
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>Other areas of interest:
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>The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/
>DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol  (band plan policy
>discussion)
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>Yahoo! Groups Links
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>Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to  Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org
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>Other areas of interest:
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>The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/
>DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol  (band plan policy discussion)
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Bill Aycock - W4BSG
Woodville, Alabama 




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