I don't see much use for a very high throughput, very robust data mode that requires 6-10 KHz of bandwidth as being used by me except when I am working disaster relief and for perhaps traiining nets. If I have that capability, good amateur radio practices would cause me to use only the mode and bandwidth I need for my communications. If I am just chatting, I am going to use a narrow mode designed for chatting. If I send a picture of my hamshack I want to sent it fast and get back to a narrow chat mode.
But when there is a disaster and I am working disaster relief communications, I would like to be able to have that very high throughput and very robust mode available and have practiced using it before hand. I don't try to have a QSO with a buddies during a contest weekend because those who are contesting want to use the band...I can wait until the next day/weekend. If I really need to talk to them, I can call them on the phone. If there is an emergency/disaster, I would expect that contestors would allow the required nets space. Let's begin thinking about what we can do and what we should do in amateur radio...not just thinking one way...be flexable. Walt/K5YFW -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Danny Douglas Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 7:35 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [digitalradio] 3kHz or 500Hz Re: Updates on effect of FCC R&O "You guys" was directed at all the people yelling that they want umpteen kc of bandwidth to pass traffic that 99 percent of us dont touch, will never touch, and dont care about. If it comes down to us keeping our freqs/bands, only if we make them of no value to the majority of us, the majority of the time, then take them all, and be done with it. Someone else just sent another message: "did they OUTLAW CW or just EXTEND phone? CW IS STILL LEAGAL just it has to shair some of the band. " Which is true, it is still legal. You can use it all day, if you want to set in the middle of some rasping "junk" that will give you a headache, in a few minutes time. You can also try to use it in the middle of some net with 20 or 30 people using a KC, covering the DX you are trying to talk to. etc etc ad nasuem. I have lived and worked in parts of the world that such activities made the dx portion of bands completely unuseable. And dont say that there are filters to take care of that! Filter are designed to pass a small portion of the spectrum, but that doesnt mean those intefering signals are not setting right in the pass band. If the FCC follows thru with their announcement on 80 meters, SSB and other 3khz signals are going to ruin a whole lot more spectrum for the CW and narrow band digital ops, not only here but in other countries that are being intefered with, in spectrum they now use for PSK and rtty, not to mention CW. It is quite clear that more and more operators are being licensed that dont know CW, dont want to Know CW, and would just as soon see it disappear, so they can have THEIR SSB or other mode communications. Sadly the FCC is not only dumbing down the tests, but many of the operators who are joining are ignorant of "what was" and dont really care. It is, after all, the ME GENERATION. I for one, am not going silently into the dusk. Danny Douglas N7DC ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB all DX 2-6 years each. moderator [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Becker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2006 7:52 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] 3kHz or 500Hz Re: Updates on effect of FCC R&O > No Danny - maybe I did not make myself clear on this . > Mark said > > " I do understand trading bandwidth for accuracy > and that can be added to the equation too, but that really > only applies to forwarding messages, not keyboard to > keyboard QSOs. " > > This is not true. It *applies* to all... > > All my digital QSO's are keyboard to keyboard. > > And what do you mean by "you guys" ? > > At 06:31 PM 10/22/2006, you wrote: > >I'm afraid that keyboard to keyboard, mike to mike and keys have EVERYTHING > >TO DO WITH IT. Ham radio is here for amateur use, not professional. I am > >here to enjoy QSOs with friends and acquaintances, and to-be friends around > >the world. Not to send tons of official traffic. Each of us needs to be > >capable to lend a hand when their is an emergency. We do NOT need to have > >professional stations set up which can handle huge throughput, which is what > >I am hear here. If you want a job as a professional communicator, feel free > >to go out and find one. I did that for 30 years ( as well as enjoying > >hamming on the side), and am here in case needed. I am not here just to be > >a back-up in case something else fails, at the expense of this hobby. I > >also do not want others interfering with my hobby use of these band, using > >huge signals on wide bands and destroying my everyday use of the small > >assignments we have. > > > >If you guys really think you need all this wideband, multi channel stuff, > >ask the FCC for separate bands, but lets not call it amateur radio. We > >amateurs do not need 6-10 kc of bandwidth running multi kilo speed to simply > >say "Hey Jack - good to hear you again - ur 59 here in Virginia today, so > >how has it been with you and your wife?" I have every faith in our digital > >software people that they can make ever increasing gains in programs to > >allow us to enjoy this hobby, and keep the bandwidth and the thru put down > >to sensible levels. > > > >Danny Douglas N7DC > >ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA > >SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB all > >DX 2-6 years each. > > > > > > > > > > > > Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org > > Other areas of interest: > > The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ > DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.9/490 - Release Date: 10/20/2006 > > Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! 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