Rick,

I have had the same experience here too, especially regarding 6M and 10M 
bands.
Out of the hundreds of Hams in the area, I know of only two who use HF 
digital modes.
Thank goodness for lists like these.

73, John - K8OCL


>From: KV9U <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: [digitalradio] Don't ignore proposals/local HF net successes
>Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 18:30:28 -0500
>
>Bruce,
>
>The ARRL is not generally going to ask other groups for input. It would
>really be a bit unethical if my organization bypasses me and goes to
>another organization for input. The input clearly needs to come from the
>membership. So the ARRL acted appropriately.
>
>What seems to be coming out of all this is that SMIRK did not act in
>their members best interest and ignored the FCC proposal. You do this at
>your own risk. So I would talk to them about this and how you can use
>the organization to further your interests, just like the other groups do.
>
>Just so you know, I certainly would never support any wide band modes
>beyond what we now have on 6 meters or 2 meters. And that includes SS
>techniques which destroy the noise floor over too wide an area. However,
>I would like to see 6 meters used a LOT more than it is. It is
>frustrating to me that after all these years, with many, many, more hams
>with Technician Class Licenses, and with all the new amazing rigs with 6
>and sometimes even 2 and 440 SSB added on, very few hams are working
>these bands for "local" contacts. The equipment (the really pathetic
>equipment) I had in 1964 to work 6 meters (and could never get it to
>work) is a far cry from what we have now and yet you just do not find
>many operators. I call every so often on 52.525 FM and 50.125 SSB with
>almost no contacts. Sure, when the band opens up, you can then work many
>stations. I know that there are very weak signal modes such as some rare
>EME work and more common meteor shower work so you don't want to
>jeopardize those areas.
>
>By the way, since I moved about 30-40 miles away from my former QTH
>which was centrally located to our club's Wednesday night chat net, we
>have tried many different HF frequencies to see what works the best for
>voice. We initially started on 28.400 for the last year or two but the
>reason for selecting 10 meter phone was so that the Tech + and Novices
>could be part of the group. Guess what? At no time have we ever had any
>of them come to the well publicized net. So recently we have been trying
>other bands, and 80 tends to go long and you get too many distant
>stations wanting to contact us, 40 and 20 are outside the NVIS range and
>have a weaker ground wave. Unfortunately same for 6 meters:( We thought
>that might work OK for direct/skywave, but very mediocre results with
>our mediocre antennas.
>
>The bands that really work the best are:
>
>160 if the other stations are willing to install an antenna ... and ...
>15 meters was the best "ground"/direct wave of all the bands we tried.
>Even with Butternut and R7 type verticals. I still can not quite figure
>out the reason.
>
>I sure wish I could get some of the stations to try digital, especially
>on 6 meters and 160 meters, but it seems nearly impossible out of 150 +
>hams in the greater area,  we have very few that will even try digital
>modes at all:(
>
>73,
>
>Rick, KV9U
>
>
>
>
>bruce mallon wrote:
>
> >They were not asked .... THAT'S THE POINT ..... also
> >how many members of this commity are long time 6 meter
> >users? How many are active on 6 meters?
> >If newer modes like digital are to catch on you cannot
> >call others " LEGACY " modes and work around them to
> >seze frequencys and thats EXACTLY what was done here
> >....... it is not in your best intrest.
> >
> >--- KV9U <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >>Perhaps the lesson might be that unless we come to
> >>the meeting and speak > up, our voices will not be
> >>
> >>
> >heard. Actually, special > interest groups such
> >
> >
> >>as SMIRK, SWOT, etc.,  should position themselves as
> >>advocates for their > members point of view. I
> >>
> >>
> >assume that they did this?
> >
> >
> >
>




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