All, Somebody, not just Ed (HI), wrote to me off-list about this posting.
I reject my former positon as being simplistic and in error. Carry on ARRL! 73, John - K8OCL >From: "John Champa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [email protected] >Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Re: BPL-Busting Modes/Techniques >Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 12:00:16 -0400 > >Ed, > >Nobody said it is available now, only that a solution is possible. Bob >even >pointed out that any solution may be too expensive anyway. > >If we can pause for a minute and stop thinking in strictly analog terms, >then it is clear a solution is possible. For example, I work in a virtual >sea of BPL. It's thick and heavy. Any spectrum analysis indicates such. > >Of course we don't call it "BPL", because it is the same stuff but it is >aimed deliberately at us. It's called 802.11g, 802.11a, and other assorted >OFDM products. > >Yet, in digital networking we are able to work within and around this sea >very effectively to do what we must do to communicate. If Hams can stop >thinking of BPL as simply NOISE and investigate its specific nature, their >great history of Ham Radio innovation will eventually prevail. > >Remember, somebody once said with equal certainty that 200 Meters and down >was absolutely worthless! (HI) > >73, >John - K8OCL > > > > >From: "Hare, Ed W1RFI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[email protected]> > >Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Re: BPL-Busting Modes/Techniques > >Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 11:03:15 -0400 > > > >I strongly disagree. If a digital solution exists to dig signals 60 dB > >out of poorly correlated noise, where can I download a copy or > >information so I can copy signals 60 dB below the present ambient noise > >levels? > > > >Ed Hare, W1RFI > >ARRL Laboratory Manager > >225 Main St > >Newington, CT 06111 > >Tel: 860-594-0318 > >Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Web: http://www.arrl.org/ > >Member: ASC C63 EMC Committee > > Chairman: Subcommittee 5, Immunity > > Chairman: Ad hoc BPL Working Group > >Member: IEEE P1775 BPL EMC Committee > >Member: IEEE, Standards Association, Electromagnetic Compatibility > >Society > >Member: ICES SCC-28 RF Safety > >Member/Secretary: IEEE EMC Society Standards Development Committee > > Chairman, BPL Study Project > >Member: Society of Automotive Engineers EMC/EMR Committee > >Board of Directors: QRP Amateur Radio Club International > > > Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
