"I have been a packet sysop since 1992, and it was the way it operated.
Noone who is not a member of the forwarding net is welcome, even in
packet, not to say anything of other modes."


I guess this is why, when I used my packet controller, no one would talk to
me when I checked in on hf.  I just figured it was rudeness of the
operators, who didnt want to talk, or else they were not there at all.  Of
course, who knew?


Danny Douglas N7DC
ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA
SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB all
DX 2-6 years each
.
QSL LOTW-buro- direct
As courtesty I upload to eQSL but if you
    use that - also pls upload to LOTW
    or hard card.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jose A. Amador" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 4:25 AM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Dec 15?


>
> As Walt states, there is a need of a pool of reserved frequencies for
> automatic or semiautomatic operation, in order to
> avoid clashing with others.
>
> I have been a packet sysop since 1992, and it was the way it operated.
> Noone who is not a member of the forwarding net is welcome, even in
> packet, not to say anything of other modes.
>
> It is naive to stop a network because I am willing to chat on the
> network frequency.
>
> Rude as it may seem, it seems to be the only way for it to work.
>
> I see a fight against pactor...I don't  remember seeing the same
> diatribe against packet.
>
> It seemed while packet was alive that the reserved frequencies were
> somehow accepted.
>
> Not the whole wide world has access to high speed Internet to bury "the
> obsolete communication networks" to
> convert them in chat channels. The sad fact is that anyway, it is
happening.
>
> Another expression of the digital divide.
>
> Jose, CO2JA
>
> ----
>
> Dave Bernstein wrote:
>
> >  The problem can be overcome, Walt; it requires equipping each station
> >  with a busy frequency detector.
> >
> >  Attended stations already have a busy frequency detector: the
> >  operator.
> >
> >  Unattended stations must be augmented to detect activity on the
> >  frequencies they use for transmission and never transmit when these
> >  frequencies are already in use. Multi-mode busy detection software
> >  was successfully prototyped in SCAMP more than a year ago, but has
> >  not been incorporated in WinLink or any other HF message passing
> >  service that employs unattended stations.
> >
> >  If those complaining about "technology prison" spent half as much
> >  time coding as they do whining, HF message passing services could
> >  employ unattended stations that do not QRM in-progress QSOs, and thus
> >  could peacefully co-exist with the rest of the amateur community.
> >
> >  73,
> >
> >  Dave, AA6YQ
> >
> >  --- In [email protected]
> >  <mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com>, "DuBose Walt Civ AETC
> >  CONS/LGCA" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > The "hidden transmitter" on any band and especially HF is always
> >  going to be a problem. It is not only a problem for us, but also in
> >  the commercial and military communications world.
> > >
> > > As hard as we try, as operators and using smart software, we will
> >  not overcome the problem.
> > >
> > > We then are left with two choices...understand it and live with it
> >  or not use HF.
> > >
> > > The problem isn't going away.
> > >
> > > 73,
> > >
> > > Walt/K5YFW
>
>
>
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