Who are you calling dishonest or ignorant?
Look at the facts. As I've said in other posts there is a difference between Winlink 2000 stations running primarily e mail and NTS Digital. We operate Winlink Classic 2.9 and don't use internet forwarding. We prefer to use HF automatic forwarding to get our traffic passed. We fully support the ARRL petition to restore the automatic control sub bands. Lacking this we will operate 3590 to 3600 in semi automatic mode i.e. where a connect will not occur until requested by a manually controlled station.

Dave WB2FTX Eastern Area Digital Coordinator National Traffic System Digital

Danny Douglas wrote:

He appears to either be dishonest or ignorant. Take your pick.

Danny Douglas N7DC
ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA
SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB all
DX 2-6 years each
.
QSL LOTW-buro- direct
As courtesty I upload to eQSL but if you
use that - also pls upload to LOTW
or hard card.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "johnr3256" <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:w3uls%403n.net>>
To: <[email protected] <mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 12:10 PM
Subject: [digitalradio] Re: New ARRL Petition

> Hello, Bonnie:
>
> I'm glad to see in your latest post that you have toned down your
rhetoric. I assume from
> your earlier sallies that you have some standing within this group, but it
shouldn't lead to
> harumphing about comments that may not be exactly precise in discussing
what is
> abstruse material anyway.
>
> What I find fascinating in the latest petition emanating from Newington is
the ARRL's
> continuing fixation on WinLink 2000 and its concurrent inability to
explain to members
> why WinLink is being given priority status in its Washington operation.
After all, you only
> have a few arrows in the quiver, and it seems ARRL has gone to the mat for
about 5,000
> radio amateurs who use this mode from time to time and ignoring the loud
objections
> from the remainder. Meanwhile its other Washingto initiatives are
withering, not to
> mention that last week the League came close to calling the FCC Chairman
dishonest.
> Strange . . .
>
> 73,
> John, W3ULS
>
> --- In [email protected] <mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com>, "expeditionradio"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Dave WB2FTX wrote:
> > > There are two types of "automatic" operation. Fully automatic
> > > means that the automated station will issue connects by itself.
> > > ...
> > > Semi-automatic operation will move below 3600 Khz after the
> > > 15th, in the 3590 to 3600 region.
> > >
> >
> > Hi Dave,
> >
> > There has been some misinformation posted on groups and websites about
> > "Automatic" operation on 80 meters. It is understandable that many
> > hams have been confused, with all those errors and confusion in the
> > recent FCC ruling. But, there are also a few hams who are trying to
> > "exploit" the confusion by spreading disinformation.
> >
> > In fact, it would be quite difficult to get a handle on what is
> > automatic and what is non-automatic, since automation is a moving
> > target in our changing world of technology. In the FCC's Amateur
> > Radio Service rules, as far as I know, there are no such terms as
> > "Fully Automatic" or "Semi-Automatic" used. If anyone can point out
> > these terms, please elucidate.
> >
> > The new "omnibus" FCC rules for December 15th are *completely silent*
> > on the topic of "automatic stations". In fact, it seems that...
> > whoopsy-daisy, the FCC forgot to read their own rules about them :)
> >
> > The only reason data/texting stations in USA, automatic or manual, are
> > all moving below 3600kHz is that the subband above 3600kHz is
> > scheduled to become a CW/Voice/Image subband for Extra Class licensees
> > on 15 December. This will happen unless there is a "stay" issued by
> > FCC in response to ARRL's recent petitions, for the FCC rules taking
> > effect.
> >
> > Even if the stay doesn't happen, emissions still remain available for
> > compliant automatic use in the 3500kHz to 3600kHz subband for
> > data/texting/500HzBW-image.
> >
> > Automatic operation will continue in the 3500kHz to 3600kHz range in
> > USA. There are many automatic stations, many types of automatic
> > stations, and thousands of ham operators who use these stations for
> > their enjoyment of ham radio, for emergency service, and for safety.
> > All of us will be packed like sardines into the 3500kHz-3600kHz
> > subband now. It benefits all of us, for good spectrum efficiency, for
> > all the automatic stations to run fast data... as fast as they
> > possibly can.
> >
> > That leads to one of the reasons for my recent proposed changes in the
> > 80m bandplan and digital keyboarding calling frequencies. These help
> > to provide a foundation for hams to effectively separate the
> > relatively different techniques of time-efficient fast digital
> > automatic operations from relatively bandwidth-efficient manual
> > keyboarding operations.
> >
> > Bonnie KQ6XA
> >
> > .
> >
>
>
>
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