Danny,

I think you have pinned it down...

I think most of us who run a normal keyboard-to-keyboard QSO need less than 40 
(maybe 60) WPM but want a really robust mode...something I can run QRP on and 
still get 100% error free copy...Ok, 100 watts.  Hi Hi...and a dipole on 80/40.

But then I work a net where I really want to punch through a large amount of 
text (maybe 3  - 6 pages) in a short amount of time or a delimited file of data 
from my experiments.  This is rather time sensitive because I'm trying to get 
everyone on the same page using the same parameters with existing propagation 
conditions.  There might be 3 -6 pages for 2 or 3 different groups/individuals. 
 So I need to get this through with virually no errors and at least at 200 
WPM...more throughput would be better...and most of the stations are running 
portable and only 100 watt transceivers and have no access to the Internet.

As I have said, I really see two conditions...one for keyboard-to-keyboard QSOs 
and/or DX/contesting and another for pushing through larger amounts of data 
that is time sensitive.

73,

Walt/K5YFW

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Danny Douglas
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 5:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: GRUMBLE


I had that in the back of my mind too.  What is with all this thinking on
speed these days.  People want faster digital, faster cw, even faster voice
contacts.  Look at the "normal" QSO of today:  "N7DC DE XU1XXXX 59 tu QRZ?"
Hey I might like to know the guys name, his QTH,  What gear is he using,
antenna?

Once in a great while you actually meet someone on PSK that types his info,
live and on-line, instead of hitting a Macro button and giving you the same
information he just gave 73 other peope before you.  He might actually ask
you a question about something other than antenna and power.  He might be a
human.

Even the darn cars on the road seem to want to go faster than the driver
behind the wheel can drive them (at least safely).  Who needs a car with a
speedometer that reads 150 mph?  The speed limit on ALL US roads is somewhat
under that (by about 70 mph or more.)  Not to say that too many of those
drivers want to push the vehicle up and beyond that posted on the sides of
the road - but that is another story.

If I was a professional communicator (and I was for 29 years) I would indeed
want all the speed I could get, in order to push those groups thru so I
could sit down and rest a bit- away from keyboards, keys, switches, antennas
and so forth and so forth.  But - I am an amateur (still) and dont need to
push messages - just talk to friends, old and new, along the way.  So what
if I take an extra 2 minutes in a 5 minute conversation.  Its a HOBBY
people.  Slow down - Take a breath - enjoy the conversation - quit pushing
each other off the information highway.

I learned to type on a standard school typewriter, and could type 70 plus
wpm when there.  In the army, I had to show I could type 25wpm (woopie-do)
before graduation from radio school.  At that time, it wasnt a standard
typewritter, but a MILL.  Thats a standard typewriter, but with all CAPS on
the keys.  No lower case characters at all.  You typed received code on ALL
CAPS.  It was easier to read.  CW doesnt have upper and lower case
characters.  Then it was on to RTTY, and again ALL CAPS.  RTTY doesnt have
upper and lower case letters either.    Then came along computers, and here
they throw a wrench in the game.  The digital game.  Computers DO have upper
and lower case, so we are back to that again.  By this time, my typing is
shot.  I forget to hit the Shift key, OR GET THE DARN CAPS LOCK HIT INSTEAD.
Then someone comes along and says STOP SHOUTING AT ME.  What does that mean?
I wasnt shouting at anyone.  Just goes to show how little they actually
know.

What is comes down to:   Quit complaining if someone talks in all caps.
dont complain if they are not a typist and never hit the shift bar and dont
complain if they dont hit enough periods or miss a question or keep typing
without stopping a sentence and starting another one if they also forget to
tell you when a sentence ends or starts who cares they are still
communicating!!!!    SOME GUYS USE ALL CAPS, BECAUSE LIKE ME, THEY LEARNED
THAT WAY AND ITS EASIER TO SEE, SO WHO REALLY CARES.  See there I go
shouting at you again.

OK - lets go work VU7  --- Well -  At least lets go see if we ever hear them
anyway!  It sure would be nice to hear them long enough to take a crack at
sending back and having them here us.    I dont care if they do talk 20 wpm,
or 50.  I just want them to talk to me!



Danny Douglas N7DC
ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA
SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB all
DX 2-6 years each
.
QSL LOTW-buro- direct
As courtesty I upload to eQSL but if you
    use that - also pls upload to LOTW
    or hard card.

moderator  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "whynotbecreative" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 2:01 PM
Subject: [digitalradio] Re: GRUMBLE


> You are assuming that speed is what people want. Perhaps that
> assumption is wrong.
>
> 73,
>>



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