Andy- My recommendation would be 6M. We have a local net thatcovers a 
radius of over 50 miles, at night. Sometimes MUCH more. The antenna I 
find most effective is a Yagi with a low F/B (Normally considered to 
be a lousy antenna) I point toward the center of the net area, and 
only move if someone wants a relay. Of course, with a single station 
sked, more focus will help.
Actally, 10M seems to be better here than your experience. When I 
scan the beacon frequencies, I frequently see low power stations at 
50 miles or more. I DO have a low noise area, though, at the highest 
point in several miles.
Good luck-Bill-W4BSG

At 02:41 PM 12/26/2006, you wrote:
>My entry in to amateur radio was via 10 meters and the quest for DX, I
>had no real interest in "local" communication.  Over the years I have
>had hams ask me to help them set-up their stations for digital mode
>operation and have occasionally resorted to the lower bands in attempt
>to help them.  Often my attempts to communicate with hams in a 10-50
>mile radius has failed.  During darkness, I "skip" over them, and
>during the day-light we can't hear each other.
>
>I know 10 and 20 meter daylight propagation characteristics like the
>back of my hand,  but  have no clue about what is "normal" for 80 and
>40M .  It seems odd to me that I would have to rely on 2M repeaters to
>talk to regional hams.  What do others on this list do for regional
>communications on HF?  It would seem to me that the digital modes
>would be ideal for regional use but whenever I get a chance to get
>someone brave enough to leave 2M chatting alone and try a digital mode
>on HF, I can't work 'em to help them get set-up.
>
>I am familiar with NVIS antennae but do not have a particular NVIS
>installation, I do not have real estate for 160M either.  So what
>bands and "regular" antennas do you use for this ?
>
>
>--
>Andy K3UK
>Skype Me :  callto://andyobrien73
>www.obriensweb.com
>
>
>DX Cluster telnet://cluster.dynalias.org
>
>Suggested Calling/Beaconing Frequencies:
>
>All frequencies are USB and assume a centre audio frequency of 1000Hz
>(e.g radio dial at 14.077.4 and 1000Hz on your waterfall = 14078.4)
>
>20M:   Primary : 14.078.4     Secondary: 14.076.4
>
>30M    Primary:  10.142       Secondary 10.144
>
>80M    Primary : 3583         Secondary: 3584.5
>
>
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