Gee, Mostly out west there are microwave towers across country for the long
distance, and I suspect those also carry the backbone for the cells now too.
I dont see many MW -only towers around here thogh. Mostly its fiber cable
here too, that I see running all the way up to D.C. I hope they have
viable backups. I know we are getting more and more cells towers around
here - sometimes within a half or quarter mile from each other. You would
think they would share those things, considering the costs.
Danny Douglas N7DC
ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA
SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB all
DX 2-6 years each
.
QSL LOTW-buro- direct
As courtesy I upload to eQSL but if you
use that - also pls upload to LOTW
or hard card.
moderator [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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----- Original Message -----
From: "KV9U" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 11:24 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: HF Digital Modes and NVIS (iow, short
range??? as in 300 mi or
> Hi Danny,
>
> Not the local phone company, but the cell phone system for the area and
> long distance were disconnected due to the fiber cut. They have no
> alternative routing since there is only the one fiber that everything
> has to pass through to get out of the area and get to the cell towers
> and long distance.
>
> You would think that there would be several alternative paths but I
> suppose for smaller sized communities, that is not possible.
>
> 73,
>
> Rick, KV9U
>
>
> Danny Douglas wrote:
>
> >Gee Rick, you mean the whole telephone system, inclulding cells were out
for
> >one cut? Sounds like they need to do some backup planning at the phone
> >company too.
> >
> >Danny Douglas N7DC
> >ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA
> >SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB all
> >DX 2-6 years each
> >.
> >QSL LOTW-buro- direct
> >As courtesy I upload to eQSL but if you
> > use that - also pls upload to LOTW
> > or hard card.
> >
> >moderator [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >moderator http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DXandTalk
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "KV9U" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[email protected]>
> >Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2007 10:25 PM
> >Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: HF Digital Modes and NVIS (iow, short
> >range??? as in 300 mi or
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>Because the SCS modem works so well, and except for HAL, no other
> >>manufacturers developed any competitive systems. Also, there has been
> >>minimal interest from the programmers in the amateur radio community to
> >>move forward with competitive sound card modes.
> >>
> >>So for now there is SCS as a proprietary, one source product. Winlink
> >>2000 dropped Clover II support some time back and concentrated only upon
> >>Pactor. So if you want to use the HF portion of the Winlink 2000 system,
> >>you either use Pactor 1 from a new or used cloned product, (e.g.,
> >>Kantronics or AEA/Timewave), or you buy the SCS product. Pactor 1 is
> >>not fully supported with all the servers and there are time limits from
> >>what I understand.
> >>
> >>For me it is not the price. I simply will not support this kind of
> >>approach in amateur radio as I believe that these systems are contrary
> >>to what amateur radio is all about. Closed systems with proprietary
> >>designs are anathema to me. But others see it differently and will use
> >>the system mostly for casual use, such as RV and boating. Some even
> >>extend that to emergency communications, but again, that is a stretch
> >>for most of us, because it doesn't solve the main emergency needs that
> >>we have. And it is a fragile system, dependent heavily on the internet.
> >> From comments I have heard there was a recent outage for a short time.
> >>Nothing is perfect. Even HF can lose communication due to aurora, bands
> >>going out, etc.
> >>
> >>Recently, our Section has most of the hospitals set up with at least a
> >>dual band VHF/UHF antenna, feedline, and power supply. Some have hams on
> >>staff and even have used some of the various funding sources to purchase
> >>dual band rigs.
> >>
> >>Yesterday, one of our nearby hospitals that just became well equipped
> >>for amateur radio, experienced a failure of cellphones and long
> >>distance. The radio amateur operator, who is also a hospital employee,
> >>luckily had their plan B backup which was a satellite phone. You really
> >>don't need amateur radio with all these other high tech solutions ...
> >>
> >>
> >right?
> >
> >
> >>Except, of course, if the satphone system doesn't work. And it did not
> >>work! Quite a shock. Luckily, he was able to get help via amateur radio
> >>and make the necessary communications to find out what was going on with
> >>the cell phones (cut fiber optic cable) and if necessary we could have
> >>mobilized further. Communications were eventually restored about 12
> >>hours from the time the outage was discovered (about 2 am to 2 pm if I
> >>have it roughly correct). Satphone system was apparently undergoing some
> >>additions to the constellation and was temporarily down or acting
> >>intermittently.
> >>
> >>73,
> >>
> >>Rick, KV9U
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
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