Hello Bill,

According to the Multipsk help, it is -5 dB for the 125 bauds (which is logic 
for this speed). 
But -5 dB with a gaussian noise (fix statistical characteristics).

73
Patrick

"
BPSK125 and QPSK125

Creation: in 2003

Description :
Baud rate  : 125
Speed  : 148 wpm in capital letters and 204 wpm in small letters (average)
Bandwidth  : about 320 Hz,
Drift tolerance  : 120 Hz/min in BPSK125 and 40 Hz/min in QPSK125 (depending on 
level)
Lowest S/N : -5 dB
"
73
Patrick


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bill McLaughlin 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 2:11 AM
  Subject: [digitalradio] Re: FNpsk


  Hi Rick,

  I think FNpsk uses QPSK125 and PSK31...but otherwise you are correct 
  as there is no speed difference that I am aware of between BPSK125 
  and QPSK125....QPSK125 is alot more frequency sensitive then BPSK125 
  and I think that about -5 db S/N is probably more realistic than -8 
  db S/N.

  73

  Bill N9DSJ

  --- In [email protected], KV9U <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  >
  > According to the information in the help files from Multipsk:
  > 
  > 1200 baud Packet = 1320 wpm
  > 
  > BPSK125 = 148 wpm capital and 204 wpm small letter average speed at 
  > about -8 db S/N
  > 
  > Of course this assumes that both have good signal strengths and 
  there 
  > are no hits. If the PSK125 mode takes a hit it keeps on sending and 
  the 
  > receiving station gets errors. If the packet receiving station gets 
  > errors, it requires retries and since this mode also requires much 
  > greater signal strength to operate, it can easily have zero 
  throughput 
  > and time out eventally after many retries. Packet may need 
  something 
  > like +8 db S/N to function. This means it is about the same or 
  slightly 
  > worse than the OFDM mode used in digital SSTV programs.
  > 
  > Anyone else have more real world numbers?
  > 
  > 73,
  > 
  > Rick, KV9U
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > Walt DuBose wrote:
  > 
  > >Here is an interesting question...
  > >
  > >What is the user throughput in WPM or CPS (what you see on your 
  monitor) in 1200 
  > > baud AX.25 and the 190-200 WPM user throughput of PSK125?
  > >
  > >I have send many, many pure SMTP messages using sendmail over 
  AX.25 KISS mode 
  > >with a NOS stack.
  > >
  > >I have also worked with HTML message/E-Mail templates and find 
  only a couple 
  > >hundred characters different in the template E-Mails/messages and 
  those that are 
  > >full and complete E-Mail such as used by sendmail.
  > >
  > >Walt/K5YFW
  > > 
  > >
  >



   

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