Sorry, I meant the first sentence below to be
"Having a WinLink user not transmit a request when the frequency is
already in use is necessary, but not sufficient."
73,
Dave, AA6YQ
--- In [email protected], "Dave Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Having a WinLink user transmit a request when the frequency is
> already in use is necessary, but not sufficient. The WinLink user
may
> find the frequency locally clear, and procede with his or her
> request. But the WinLink PMBO that responds to that request may QRM
a
> QSO that the WinLink user could not hear.
>
> The WinLink Development team pretends that a remote user's
assessment
> of the frequency is sufficient, but they know full well that this
> approach doesn't prevent their PMBOs from QRMing ongoing QSOs.
SCAMP
> was a bona fide attempt on their party to address this problem, but
> they seem to have lost interest.
>
> 73,
>
> Dave, AA6YQ
>
>
> --- In [email protected], "James Wilson" <james@> wrote:
> >
> > First, I am not a winlink user.
> >
> > From their site
> > http://www.winlink.org/guidelines.htm
> > Listen First! Because there is a live human being (control
> operator) is always present at the initiating station, one common
> theme is paramount to the successful operation of the system. This
> common theme, which is consistent with all Amateur Radio
operations,
> consists of simply listening on the frequency about to be used by
the
> initiating station in order to determine if that frequency is
> occupied. Obviously, if the frequency that is about to be used is
> occupied, the proper procedure is to either wait until it is free
> before transmitting, or find another Radio Message Server (PMBO)
> whose frequencies are not otherwise occupied. Not only is this a
> common courtesy to other Amateurs, but it is also a specific
> requirement of any Country's rules which regulate Amateur licenses,
> Worldwide.
> >
> >
> > To me this sounds like one of those situations that the product
is
> intended to break, but they put the blame on the user not the
> system.
> >
> > Another example of this is a 110 horsepower motorcycle and in the
> manual it says that speeding is dangerous and you should always
obey
> local laws and regulations. Everyone knows they are going to break
> the law but they put the responsibility on the end user instead of
> the end user.
> >
> > Almost like the 2nd amendment.
> >
> > I think the best way to push winlink users to not interfere is to
> log events where the intentionally transmit over other operators
and
> submit them in mass to ARRL and the FCC.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Andrew O'Brien
> > To: [email protected]
> > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 1:31 PM
> > Subject: Re: [digitalradio] screw WINLINK
> >
> >
> > Just a friendly reminder that a rule of this group is that we
> adhere to normal operational rules and not advocate deliberate
> interference.
> > Andy K3UK
> >
> >
> >
> > On 3/9/07, David Michael Gaytko // WD4KPD <wd4kpd@> wrote:
> > "Live with it, and get used to it"
> > then QRM it.
> >
> > david/wd4kpd
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Andy K3UK
> > Skype Me : callto://andyobrien73
> > www.obriensweb.com
> >
>
