I agree with your point, Jim. However, it doesn't explain the failure 
of the WinLink organization to incorporate the SCAMP busy detector in 
each of their PMBOs. This would have no impact on WinLink users, and 
minimal $ impact on PMBO operators.

    73,

      Dave, AA6YQ

--- In [email protected], "jgorman01" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Ask yourself why scamp died.  Do you really think the winlink users
> who have spent a thousand dollars or more on pactor modems are going
> to relish throwing that investment away because the winlink admin's
> have decided to go to a soundcard mode?
> 
> Jim
> WA0LYK
> 
> --- In [email protected], "Dave Bernstein" <aa6yq@> 
wrote:
> >
> > I have been lobbying the WinLink team to do this for years, 
without 
> > success. You are more than welcome to try, Jose.
> > 
> >    73,
> > 
> >       Dave, AA6YQ
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], "Jose A. Amador" <amador@> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > Dave Bernstein wrote:
> > > 
> > > > As is often the case in engineering, Jose, perfect is the 
enemy 
> > of 
> > > > good. What Rick KN6KB discovered while developing SCAMP's 
busy 
> > > > detector was that he could detect CW, PSK, Pactor, and SSB at 
an 
> > ~80% 
> > > > confidence level without enormous difficulty. SCAMP beta 
testers 
> > were 
> > > > amazed by the effectiveness of this first iteration.
> > > > 
> > > > Pushing the confidence level from 80% to 100%, however, would 
> > take 
> > > > years -- if its even possible. But a busy detector that works 
80% 
> > of 
> > > > the time would cut QRM from unattended automated stations 
(like 
> > > > WinLink PMBOs) by a factor of 5! 
> > > > 
> > > > Your comment that "many think it is simpler than it really is 
to 
> > do 
> > > > it WELL" is frankly moot; Rick demonstrated two years ago 
that 
> > useful 
> > > > busy frequency detection was implementable on a PC and 
soundcard.
> > > > 
> > > >     73,
> > > > 
> > > >        Dave, AA6YQ
> > > 
> > > I understand that 80% is fairly good. Hope the long standing 
> > > anti-automatic stations lobby sees it as acceptable as well.
> > > 
> > > What is seemingly left, then, is to simply push the busy 
detector 
> > into 
> > > practice and 24/7 service.
> > > 
> > > Who will get the task done?
> > > 
> > > 73, Jose
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > __________________________________________
> > > 
> > > V Conferencia Internacional de Energía Renovable, Ahorro de 
Energía 
> > y Educación Energética.
> > > 22 al 25 de mayo de 2007
> > > Palacio de las Convenciones, Ciudad de la Habana, Cuba
> > > http://www.cujae.edu.cu/eventos/cier
> > >
> >
>


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