Hi Patrick,

Are you thinking about incorporate J65A in Multipsk? It would be great

LA5VNA Steinar




Patrick Lindecker wrote:
>
> Hello to all,
>  
> _Comparizon with S/N Multipsk figures._
>  
> According to JT65 specifications, this mode decodes with few errors
> down to -23 dB, with a normalized band of 2.5 KHz.
> All Multipsk figures are normalized with a band of 3 KHz. -23 dB in
> 2.5 KHz is about -24 dB in 3 KHz band (-23.792 dB exactly).
>  
> This figure of -24 dB can be compared to Olivia 250-8 which has a
> minimum S/N of -14 dB. So JT65 is 10 dB better or 10 times better.
> But of course JT65 is much slower that Olivia 250-8.
>  
> The only modes which are close to JT65 are:
> * THROBX: Lowest S/N:  -18,5 dB for the 1 baud, -17.5 dB for the 2 bauds
> * PSKAM10: Lowest S/N : -19.5 dB
>  
> In conclusion JT65 is better (under S/N criteria) that any modes in
> Multipsk.
>  
> 73
> Patrick
>  
>  
>  
>  
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* Tony <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>     *To:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
>     <mailto:digitalradio@yahoogroups.com>
>     *Sent:* Saturday, April 21, 2007 9:25 AM
>     *Subject:* [digitalradio] Path Simulator tests -- JT65A vs Olivia
>     and others
>
>     All:
>
>     I used Pathsim to compare the sensitivity of JT65A
>     vs MFSK, PSK31 and OLIVIA using AWGN to alter the
>     SNR. I ran direct-path with no ionospheric
>     disturbance.
>
>     The chat modes decoded with error-free print down
>     to -12 to -14db SNR. The JT65A mode decoded
>     at -27db SNR (signal inaudible).
>
>     Assuming the Pathsim white noise measurments were
>     accurate, I think it's safte to say that JT65 is
>     capable of decoding much weaker signals than the
>     others. Would be interesting to see how it does
>     with simulated ionospheric disturbances.
>
>     73 Tony - KT2Q
>
>  

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