Although a minor part of my discussion, one must not forget that radio 
signals, particularly on HF have no boundaries and affect others outside 
of a political jurisdiction.

Whatever the FCC decides here in the U.S. has effects on the rest of the 
world, sometimes profoundly so. Particularly when it comes to modes and 
sub bands. The countries that are close by, such as Canada and Mexico 
feel the most effect. A good example would be the opening of the phone 
bands here in the U.S.!

While the groups you suggest do not seem to be discussing the subjects 
at hand, here is a true story from my personal experience:

Some years ago while I was on a farming group (list), the person who 
"owned" it grew very tired of hearing about dairy farming in the Midwest 
U.S. He felt that since it was a World Wide Group, regional issues 
should not be discussed even though the majority of interest was from 
the U.S. and in particular the Midwest U.S.

The owner got abusive with some of the members who were the most 
knowledgeable about the subject and knew what they were talking about 
vs. some foreign "experts" who actually did not. He even removed a key 
U.S. farmer for daring to challenge the conventional wisdom of dairying 
from NZ by one their "experts."

In the end, dairy farmer near my area started a new group which I did 
not support at first because we would wind of fragmenting hundreds of 
participants into different groups rather than getting the knowledge in 
the one group. (Cross pollination to use a farming term, or perhaps 
critical mass?).

The new group grew as the most knowledgeable people posted to that group 
with more U.S. farmers moving to the new group. Fewer people 
participated on the World Wide group.

Today, I co-moderate the "new" group along with the person removed from 
the "World Wide Group" and the WWG is basically defunct because over 
time, most the thinking people moved to the new group that allows all 
discussions to take place in an open forum.

Here is the irony of all this: most of the world wide interest is now 
focused in the new group, not just the regional interest because the 
group was made available for all.

There are always new people coming and going and what seems old hat to 
some is quite new to them. There is nothing wrong with discussing 
Norwegian rules that impact digital issues. In fact, we want to know 
about them.

73,

Rick, KV9U


Steinar Aanesland wrote:
> "I know there is a group of you who do not like discussions of digital
> issues of these types (..) " .
> Well , let me quote John "VE5MU : "We've heard all this before ".  This
> extreme ARRL/FCC focus
> has insignificant interest outside US.  What will happen if  Norwegian
> hams start spaming this group with Norwegian rules?
> Why not use:  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FCC-US/  or this one:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigiMode_HF_Band_Plans/ ?
>
> 73 de LA5VNA Steinar
>   

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