----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Roger J. Buffington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 7:00 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Need to Expand the HF Auto Band Segments


> expeditionradio wrote:
>
>>  Automatic operation is essential to HF emcomm. It is certainly not
>>  asking too much that 10% of each ham band be devoted to one of the
>>  primary purposes for the existence of the Amateur Radio Service.
>>
>>  Greg, where is your volunteer force of non-automatic operators
>>  providing 24/7 emergency service on HF?
>
> I have participated in numerous emergency communications scenarios,
> through several earthquakes and fires.

I have also Roger
>
> Never, not once, was automatic operation even involved in passing
> emergency traffic. 95% of it was done either on HF SSB or FM repeaters
> or simplex for short-range communications.  Mostly the latter.

I totally agree and I'm sick of hearing the Emcomm excuse.  If you listen to 
them
it would sound like we have Emcomm emergencies 24/7/365.  For true
Emcomm which happens rarely there is no need for more than one frequency
if their networking is designed properly and Bonnie should know this as 
well.
>
> Where is the 24/7 volunteer force?  Red Cross, RACES, and other
> "minuteman" style ham volunteer groups.  Not on Winlink.
>
> Automatic operation is mainly a way for boaters and RVers to use the ham
> bands for cheap internet access.  This is not a valid use of our amateur
> spectrum and is probably illegal since most of this traffic is
> business-related.

What is needed is somebody to monitor them and when it's business-related
collect this info and present it to the FCC as a formal complaint. I was 
going to
go the Winlink route until I took a closer look at it and realized it's a 
sham.
>
> de Roger W6VZV
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