Hi Tommi;

 

That was our experience as well with RFSM8000 here in Canada. I could pass a
30K .jpg file in about 3.5 minutes under good conditions.

 

I am far from knowledgeable on the US regulations but apparently RFSM runs
at too high a baud rate to be a legal mode in the US. It is a pity since it
works so well and does pass emails directly to the internet through a
gateway . 

As you pointed out, it requires a pretty strong signal to work. Not sure if
any more work is being done on this mode over the past year or so.

 

John

VE5MU

 

From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Tommi Holopainen
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 10:30 AM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Latest on Error Correcting Digital Mode Message
Transfers (and WINMOR update)

 

  

Hello Andy

We have tested RFSM and speed was over 1000 bytes / second (Winmor says 
Bytes / minutes)
RFSM needs quite good signal, but it is really fast

-Tommi OH7JJT
obrienaj kirjoitti:
> 
>
> WINMOR works. It has taken 5 tweaked revisions to the beta version but
> after a lot of testing and user adjustments I would conclude that it
> "works". By that I mean, you can use this mode to connect to another
> station and transfer a error free message. The speed at which you can
> transfer an error message is not particularly good and the mode
> requires a moderate to good signal between both parties. Given the
> current propagation conditions and average antennae you can expect
> data to be transferred between 100 and 300 bytes per minute, a few
> 400+ bytes per seconds transfers have been reported and one 1000 bytes
> per second HF transfer is claimed. I am sure than you could probably
> match or better these results by using NBEMS/FLDIGI or mail transfers
> with ALE400 or PSKMAIL , but at least WINMOR is making progress. By
> the way, I saw a email from a PACTOR III user recently that said for
> WINMOR to be a serious alternative to PACTOR III, it needed to be
> above 1000 bytes per minute. Since I have never used PACTOR III that
> is the first clue I have gotten about PIII transfers speeds. I am not
> sure if PACTOR III requires the same amount of SNR that WINMOR does,
> but perhaps PIII is more robust under weak conditions.
>
> So as I understand it , HF amateur radio operators can transfer
> messages that have error correction via the following Windows based
> programs
>
> RMS Express with WINMOR (beta): Peer to peer message transfers ,
> attachments allowed. Integration with WINLINK via public mail boxes
> is planned. Also has Telnet option built in.
>
> FLDIGI-FLARQ Peer to peer ARQ "email" via MFSK, BPSK , and
> DominoEX. Use of "Wrap" files also allows for a "peer-to-masses"
> error free message transfer.
>
> MULTIPSK : ALE 141 and ALE 400 mail and file transfers (Outlook
> Express intergration)
>
> jPSKMAIL with FLDIGI : BPSK, THOR amd MFSK ARQ message transfers
> via BBS . Some Twitter integration. POP3 Mail capability.
>
> EASYPAL: File transfers with error correction. Some "peer to masses"
> error correction and "fill" capability.
>
> PC-ALE: File transfers using standard ALE. Also SMS Text messages
> and integration with WINLINK
>
> * FLDIGI and PSKMAIL both have linux options.
>
> Did I miss anything?
>
> Andy K3UK
>
> 



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