Hi Tommi;
That was our experience as well with RFSM8000 here in Canada. I could pass a 30K .jpg file in about 3.5 minutes under good conditions. I am far from knowledgeable on the US regulations but apparently RFSM runs at too high a baud rate to be a legal mode in the US. It is a pity since it works so well and does pass emails directly to the internet through a gateway . As you pointed out, it requires a pretty strong signal to work. Not sure if any more work is being done on this mode over the past year or so. John VE5MU From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tommi Holopainen Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 10:30 AM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Latest on Error Correcting Digital Mode Message Transfers (and WINMOR update) Hello Andy We have tested RFSM and speed was over 1000 bytes / second (Winmor says Bytes / minutes) RFSM needs quite good signal, but it is really fast -Tommi OH7JJT obrienaj kirjoitti: > > > WINMOR works. It has taken 5 tweaked revisions to the beta version but > after a lot of testing and user adjustments I would conclude that it > "works". By that I mean, you can use this mode to connect to another > station and transfer a error free message. The speed at which you can > transfer an error message is not particularly good and the mode > requires a moderate to good signal between both parties. Given the > current propagation conditions and average antennae you can expect > data to be transferred between 100 and 300 bytes per minute, a few > 400+ bytes per seconds transfers have been reported and one 1000 bytes > per second HF transfer is claimed. I am sure than you could probably > match or better these results by using NBEMS/FLDIGI or mail transfers > with ALE400 or PSKMAIL , but at least WINMOR is making progress. By > the way, I saw a email from a PACTOR III user recently that said for > WINMOR to be a serious alternative to PACTOR III, it needed to be > above 1000 bytes per minute. Since I have never used PACTOR III that > is the first clue I have gotten about PIII transfers speeds. I am not > sure if PACTOR III requires the same amount of SNR that WINMOR does, > but perhaps PIII is more robust under weak conditions. > > So as I understand it , HF amateur radio operators can transfer > messages that have error correction via the following Windows based > programs > > RMS Express with WINMOR (beta): Peer to peer message transfers , > attachments allowed. Integration with WINLINK via public mail boxes > is planned. Also has Telnet option built in. > > FLDIGI-FLARQ Peer to peer ARQ "email" via MFSK, BPSK , and > DominoEX. Use of "Wrap" files also allows for a "peer-to-masses" > error free message transfer. > > MULTIPSK : ALE 141 and ALE 400 mail and file transfers (Outlook > Express intergration) > > jPSKMAIL with FLDIGI : BPSK, THOR amd MFSK ARQ message transfers > via BBS . Some Twitter integration. POP3 Mail capability. > > EASYPAL: File transfers with error correction. Some "peer to masses" > error correction and "fill" capability. > > PC-ALE: File transfers using standard ALE. Also SMS Text messages > and integration with WINLINK > > * FLDIGI and PSKMAIL both have linux options. > > Did I miss anything? > > Andy K3UK > >