Hi Tony, you will have to repeat the test next days when i improve lenght 
interleaver as I had expected :-)

The first think i said about ROS is that minimize the power "at the same 
character/minute rate", and that is just what you are tester :-). You cannot 
match Washl Function FEC with Viterbi Algorithm. If you want OLIVIA be equal of 
robust that ROS you will have to transmit much slower than ROS necessarily.  
You can see as the different between OLIVIA and ROS is the not inconsiderable 
number of 5 dBs (3.2 times less power at the same character/minute).

Equally, the next mode ROS 8 baudios/2250 Hz will be 3dBS better than ROS 16 
baudios, but, obviusly is half as slow than ROS 16. You can not go against 
mathematics.

About frequency spreading of 25 Hz, thats is a value exaggerated. Normally, the 
spread doppler is usually of 1 or 2 Hz in the higher bands of the HF.

About ROS threshold, ROS is designed in a way that the Initial 
Acquisition Sequence poses no funnel. That is, the Initial sequence always has 
better sensitivity than the data demodulator. Sometimes you will see the 
initial sequence is activated but the data cannot be demodulated. This is how 
it should be.

Good job, and i expect you repeat the test with the new improvements I am 
making.




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De: Tony <[email protected]>
Para: [email protected]
Enviado: lun,1 marzo, 2010 23:29
Asunto: [digitalradio] ROS Path Simulations

  
All,

I ran several path tests with ROS-16 and Olivia 2K this evening. The simulator 
showed that Olivia is about as sensitive as ROS when configured to run at the 
same baud rate, but it is not as sensitive when configured to run at the 
same word-per-minute rate. Olivia 32/2K will runs about as fast as ROS, but it 
is roughly 5db less sensitive. 

Mode                   Sensitivity         baud rate            WPM 

Olivia 128/2K          -14db                16            3 times slower than 
ROS-16
Olivia   32/2K          -10db                64            same as ROS-16
ROS-16                  -15db               16
 
That increase in sensitivity seems to help ROS cope with certain poor channel 
conditions (as per the path simulator) compared to Olivia running at the same 
speed. In CCIR poor channel tests, for example, where selective fading sweeps 
across the channel, ROS printed better than Olivia 32/2K with low 
signal-to-noise ratios. On the other hand, Olivia 128/2K (16 baud) had an edge 
over ROS under the same conditions, albeit, with much slower throughput. 
 
In high-latitude tests, severe Doppler spread caused throughput to fall off 
dramatically with ROS indicating that it will likely fail over severely 
distorted polar paths. This occurred when the frequency spreading was above 
25Hz (ITU-R high-latitude severe distortion). Olivia was not affected. 
 
I found that ROS will not recover after the signal drops below it's minimum 
decode threshold and will not trigger ROS to start receiving if the signal is 
not strong enough at the beginning of the transmission. I'm not sure if this is 
something inherent in the mode or if it's a bug in the software. I'm sure Jose 
can answer that.
 
I should noted that Olivia 32/1K compares well with both ROS-16 and Olivia 2K 
modes in terms of poor channel throughput. Olivia 16/500 does a fine job as 
well. I suspect that ROS would perform well in an 8 baud / 1000Hz mode version. 
 
Many thanks to Jose for the new mode.  
 
Tony -K2MO
 
 
 
 



      

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