OMG I'm not that technically minded  but isn't there a compromise? 
I seem to be going from one side to the other I know, but
Cant everyone use ROS at a specific place without disturbing the beacon
network  and olivia.  After all we have sstv way within the 20m band at 14
230   surely if this had been a NEW mode in 2009 / 10 no one would have ever
thought of that frequency.  It is just tradition.
As it is such a wide mode then what if everyone makes it just above or below
the sstv frequency ?   Just a thought I had and it is late hi hi . 
Surely regardless of the mode used it could be up to our own decision where
one wants to use this mode ?  Certainly right next to the beacon network is
a bad idea.  Hence if I think right the olivia channels have been designated
from about 14.105mhz up   to 109 if I am right. 
Isn't the spirit of amateur radio to compromise?  
I know I keep putting my tuppence worth into this discussion but it makes me
mad as a relatively new ham operator circa 2004 
Once upon a time I was quite happy with psk/rtty/mfsk and mt63 but times
have a changed.     I wonder how all these modes got their own frequencies
in the first place and why not ROS the same.  ? ? ? 

AS for the threats, well I am kinda with you on that one.  Not in the spirit
of ham radio.  But...........    This is like a child's playground all
wishing to comment if the slide is to fast / high lol 

mm0tob
 
-------Original Message-------
 
From: g4ilo
Date: 05/03/2010 00:59:26
To: [email protected]
Subject: [digitalradio] Re: ROS operating frequencies on 20m
 
  
OK, I understand. That still doesn't make it impossible to use somewhere
above 14.109 though, does it?

Well I guess now it's immaterial to you guys anyway. What I don't understand
is why anyone still wants to use the mode. The developer has made threats to
other amateurs, he has posted false information on his website and risked
bringing the hobby into disrepute. Anyone who continues to use it is
basically saying none of that matters.

--- In [email protected], KH6TY <kh...@...> wrote:
>
> Julian, the problem is that the FCC regulations we live under are often 
> more strict than the IARU bandplans. Under those regulations, RTTY/Data 
> stops at 14.150.
> 
> Furthermore, the IARU band plans are only "recommendations" for member 
> organizations. The FCC regulations are "laws" we MUST follow.
> 
> While this may seem unfair in some cases (often to everyone!) it is 
> actually the FCC restriction on unattended operations to certain band 
> segments that have kept the unattended stations from covering all the HF 
> bands with Pactor-II and Pactor-III, which they would dearly like to do, 
> so they would never have interference from one of their own kind. All 
> modes, with no other legally-enforceable restrictions, would be a 
> disaster for all our HF activities. The problem with "recommendations" 
> is that they are only suggestions, so there are those who do not agree 
> with the recommendations and just do what and where they wish. US 
> amateurs, since they are governed instead by laws, face license 
> revocation or fines if they consistently flaunt the laws.
> 
> 73 - Skip KH6TY
> 



 

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