Thanks for the explanation.  A few years ago, I expressed concern that
hams were drifting towards the Internet and expensive PACTOR modems
for emergency messages.  Now with RMS Express/Winmor, PSKmail,and
NBEMS ,  we have plenty of good HF options to choose from. The large
network of RMS stations on HF has several advantages in North America,
in Europe I think PSKMAIL has a wider network.

Andy K3UK
>
> Very cool, Andy, sending a message to the Yahoo Group via Winmor and the 
> Winlink Global HF Email System!
>
> Just so everyone doesn't think that Winmor is dog slow, below is a section of 
> my current Winmor RMS (Radio Mail Server) log file from this early evening. 
> If you've got good propagation you are going to go fast. If not, well then I 
> guess you are Andy :-)
>
>
> The first entry is Andy's traffic. Because of the protocol overhead even 
> connections that pass no traffic take approximately 2 minutes from start to 
> finish. The more you send the less the overhead affects the aggregate data 
> rate. You can see the connect in the log right after Andy moved a message 
> that had 4707 bytes (compressed, uncompressed it was 4876) in about 5 
> minutes. That's flirting with 1Kbyte/min over a 500Hz bandwidth HF connection 
> INCLUDING overhead, i.e. not bad! That is pretty typical for a 500Hz Winmor 
> connection with good propagation. With very good propagation rates can 
> approach 2Kbytes/min, i.e. VERY not bad for 500Hz bandwidth!
>
> Finally, as Dave noted there is no RMS relay yet for Winmor. So there is no 
> true, organic (radio based), mesh network, store and forward YET. For now 
> Winmor is dependent on the internet to move messages between the Winmor CMS 
> mail servers. Nevertheless, if you are in an internet denied area (no 
> wireline or commercial wireless) you can now send and receive internet email 
> over HF and do it WITHOUT a $1000 Pactor modem.
>
> 73
>
> k*b*l*0*0*q
>
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