----- Original Message ----- 
  From: kc4cop 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 2:08 AM
  Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Unattended narrow mode transmission "protection"


  Your comments  about "Grandma's birthday" indicates that you understand very 
little concerning traffic handling which has been a part of amateur radio from 
the very begining and is where the "Relay" in "American Radio Relay League" 
comes from.. The pupose of the yes maybe boring everyday messages is to keep a 
cadre of trained message handlers for those times when ham radio is called upon 
to provide communications during disasters and other emergenices when other 
modes of communication are down or otherwise unavailable, including the World 
Wide Web.

  The National Traffic System exists and has operated for many decades in this 
fashion. A natural extension of this is NTS Digital which indeed does operate 
automatic message handling systems primarily using Pactor and operates 
concurrently with the traditional manual NTS at all levels.  However NTS 
Digital for the most part still uses what has become to be called Winlink 
Classic where almost all of the forwarding is done via RF. Yes we do scan, but 
Winlink Classic also has a busy frequency detector built into its scanner 
function. While not perfect it does result in inhibiting many connections when 
the frequency is busy. Personally I have seen it work upon detecting CW, RTTY, 
Pactor 1, PSK31 and some other digital modes and even just plain carrier. NTS 
Digital operates almost exclusively in the very small existing automatical 
control subbands. Indeed during RTTY contests when many of the activity moves 
into these autocontrol subbands our traffic handling ability is severely 
affected due to the busy detectors in the software. 

  How big is this operation?... For March 2010 the NTS Digital system in 
Eastern Area which comprises most of the East Coast and  the 1, 2, 3, 4, and 8 
callsign areas and Eastern Canada handled over 6000 messages via the digital 
systems. Similar traffic levels are also posted by the other two areas, Central 
and Pacific covering the rest of the US and Canada 

  Dave WB2FTX
  Easten Area Digital Coordinator- NTS Digital
  ARRL


  --- In [email protected], Andy obrien <k3uka...@...> wrote:

  A quick fix for this entire mess is to suggest to those running automated 
traffic stations to use the World Wide Web. The web is faster, less likely to 
be affected by atmospheric changes, and remove a thorn in the side of many ham 
radio operators.

  I have only intercepted messages being relayed by an automated traffic 
handling station a few times. The traffic was dull and trivial. It was hardly 
worth the mayhem now being caused by their operation. Some may disagree with me 
on the point of traffic being trivial. I just cannot find "happy birthday 
grandma" to be very important. Grandma would get her birthday which is much 
quicker through the Web.

  Dick Zseltvay,KC4COP



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