+++ More AA6YQ comments below

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]on
Behalf Of KH6TY
Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 7:02 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Busy detect screenshot for Winmor



>>>Its my impression that the WinMOR busy frequency detector has been
well-characterized as effective (going back to its original deployment in
SCAMP), so its not clear to me why more evaluation is required.

More evaluation is required simply because it has not been tested in general
use, so it may have been "characterized" as effective, but a full-blown use
(in the subbands) will confirm that is characterization is correct. It will
also show if there are people disabling the busy detector for reasons they
deem necessary or convenient.

+++ "in the subbands" is by definition not full-blown use.


The safest way to find that out is to use it in the automatic subbands. This
way, if it needs improvement, or people are disabling it, the least amount
of harm to the busy detector reputation will be incurred, and potentially
many less people will be angered that might otherwise retaliate and
intentionally block.

+++ WinMOR servers have been operational for months; not a single report of
a WinMOR busy frequency detector failure has appeared here. Contrast that
with ROS.


There is no incentive NOT to keep the Winmor busy detector active - yet.

+++ Are you saying that there has been no intentional QRM of WinMOR servers?
If so, does the WinMOR community agree with you?

So, there is no need to demonstrate to the broader community that it is
already "safe". PROVE that it is safe first, with a wider use (in the
subbands), and if it is, then turn it loose into the wild. Just
characterizing it as such on a limited beta test program with a few beta
testers does not prove what will happen with wider usage. Keeping it in the
unattended subbands can serve just as well as having Winmor mailboxes
everywhere immediately, and if it turns out it truly is a good neighbor,
then the use can be wider.

I think Andy also feels it is too soon to operate his Winmor mailbox outside
the unattended subbands.

+++ As I've already said, individual operators should apply their good
judgement; if they aren't yet confident in the busy frequency detector's
effectiveness, then running their server within the "automatic subbands" is
entirely appropriate. But when experience leads such operators to become
confident, they should be free to venture out onto other frequencies to
which they are by regulation entitled to use.

      73,

             Dave, AA6YQ

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