Rein,

Yes I was  aware of those  issues .. I never really did agree  with the  frenzy 
of  auto spotting any digital mode, gave me a  gold fish  bowl feeling, but 
that is the  modern  twitter way (of which I'm not part of)of doing  things .. 
friends on face book , the  number of  video views , game score's there  are  
now  app's  that  enhance all  of these .. what happen  here reflected the  
outside world .. the  attack on the server from EU is also a new (to us) 
Phenomena .. Im not quite  sure  exactly  what  we have all  witnessed ?  

looking at V-1 , the  link to  ham spots has been  removed and in the  ADIF 
area there now is a  option to  send  spots .. I note on the  hamspot page  
there is a  ros  page which  shows  by red  dot, spots  sent  from the  
software. 

I understood that  the  'www' aspect you have  described,  was now in effect 
closed and the  lingering argument  was based  purely on technical definitions 
and  possibly as you  recently posted, other factors not  quite  in the  public 
domain. ??

73 -G . 


--- In [email protected], "Rein A" <rein...@...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Graham,
> 
> ROS software is transmitting a large quantity of messages
> many fake, some will say illegal, every time your software
> if turned on, and received a message from a radio amatuer with
> his own call or a "borrowed"  callsign.
> 
> This was discovered due to my questioning where US calls came
> from and what they represented on this logger.
> 
>   http://www.hampspots.net/ 
> 
> in Australia.
> 
> The owner has made changes and is in conflict now with the 
> ROS author. ROS author wants to see ROS section closed down
> on Netspots.net zodat we do not can see this happening any longer.
> (more to it ) 
> 
> Both on this yahoo board and the ROS modem board you can find
> details of this since last Friday when this was discovered not 
> by me though.
> 
> 73 Rein W6SZ
> 
>  
> 
> --- In [email protected], "graham787" <g0nbd@> wrote:
> >
> > Rein, 
> > 
> > I'm reading this last post , but something is missing , what  problem  is 
> > Jose  supposed to  fix ? On what  ground's  should  the rest of the  world  
> > stop  using  the  mode ?
> > 
> > My license allows me to  transmit mfsk , makes no  reference to how the  
> > frequency steps are generated and  expressly forbids transmissions in code 
> > or  cypher and as  Ros-1 is  freely available (for now) the secret aspect 
> > is not applicable 
> > 
> > I think , it has been  reasonably established , that the  catch 22o clause 
> > is  historic, bandwidth lead and  has been overtaken  by  technology.
> > 
> > Lester ,posted quite a  viable path to  resolve the  problem.. very little 
> > in engineering is back  and white , Lester's post is  suitably Gray to  
> > split opinions .. and that's all  it needs ..a new common ground ..  a way 
> > out  for  all  involved. 
> > 
> > There is nothing 'we' The old world  can do  in support of the  situation , 
> > on the  contrary, perhaps the apparent exclusion  of the middle of the  
> > 'new world' from technological  advancement may add  leverage ?  
> > 
> > 73 -G . 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], rein0zn@ wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > Sigi
> > > 
> > > 
> > > You in Germany and perhaps others in Spain, Italy, France, UK, Russia 
> > > should stop
> > > using ROS until Jose fixes this problem .
> > > 
> > > I am sure he is sensitive to that and will respond to a temporary boycott.
> > > 
> > > One should be able to do this via the amateur radio organizations, DARC. 
> > > RSGB etc
> > > They send out newsletters, get out the word so that Jose wil listen.
> > > 
> > > I do not think ARRL will respond, fof them it is easy, "ROS is illegal to 
> > > use", so
> > > why should we getting involved?
> > > 
> > > 73 Rein W6SZ 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > >From: Siegfried Jackstien <siegfried.jackstien@>
> > > >Sent: Jul 12, 2010 7:19 PM
> > > >To: [email protected]
> > > >Subject: AW: [digitalradio] Re: Moving ROS forward in the USA?
> > > >
> > > >That would mean if you would implement ros or similar in a multimode soft
> > > >like multipsk or dm780 you would not be allowed to use it (the whole 
> > > >soft)
> > > >in us ??? I think if only a part of the soft is forbidden to use (on
> > > >transmit) all other modes can be used
> > > >
> > > >If for instance rtty was forbidden in germany but no other mode I can use
> > > >all other modes in a given software
> > > >
> > > >So if in us ros hf is forbidden (but not ros mf) you could use it in us .
> > > >right??
> > > >
> > > >Just my understanding of laws ,, but I may be wrong
> > > >
> > > >Sigi
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > >
> > >
> >
>


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