Heiya David,

thanks a lot for your answer and creating the two issues. I have just
upgraded a wiki from 1.23 via 1.25 to 1.27 and may now add my findings
to them.

Cheers and cu on phab

Karsten


Am 13.06.2017 um 15:48 schrieb David Causse:
> Thanks Karsten,
>
> I created :
> - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T167798
> - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T167800
>
> Please feel free to add more context:
> - screenshots would greatly help I think
> - step by step example to reproduce T167800 would be great
>
> I did not created the issue related to ranking since it's nearly
> impossible to debug them without precise examples and a full dataset,
> but feel free to add some comments about it to T167798 if you think
> it's important.
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 5:39 PM, [[kgh]] <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>     Heiya and ouch,
>
>     thanks a lot Chris for making me aware of the post. You mail went
>     directly to the spam folder and David's did not even get that far
>     (lost in the void :( ). In future I will just monitor the archive
>     for new posts to be sure. :|
>
>     ad 1 - highlighting) Affirmative, so one hast to access the page
>     to see where exactly the phrase shows up.
>
>     ad 2 - ranking) I cannot tell for sure but I my impression is yes.
>
>     ad 3 - missing content) This was part of Tom's oberservation, but
>     yes I experience that too. Even after running
>     "rebuildtextindex.php" pages did not show up in the search - not
>     even title matches.
>
>     I have still one wiki on MW 1.23 so I could do before and after
>     testing to be able to provide a better picture.
>
>     So I guess it is time to move to phabricator.
>
>     Cheers and thanks a lot for your feedback.
>
>     Karsten
>
>     quote lost e-mail:
>
>     Hi,
>
>     to clarify:
>     1) highlighting: When searching with double quotes (phrase search) only 
> the
>     title is displayed in the search results, the text snippet with the page
>     content snippet is not displayed. But here the same number results is 
> found
>     between 1.23 and 1.27 it just lacks some snippet for the page content?
>     2) ranking: When searching without quotes, the snippet for the page 
> content
>     is shown but the results are worse (compared to the phrase search or
>     compared to MW1.23?)
>     3) missing content: When searching wikitext tags: a lot of pages are
>     missing: this is not a highlighting problem here: when I searched for 
> *<tag>
>     *with MW 1.23: 50 pages were found, now with MW 1.27 only 3 are found. 
> Does
>     this problem apply only to tags, are there missing pages when searching
>     normal text?
>
>     It looks like 3 different bugs to me, could you please confirm. We'll then
>     be able to create some phabricator tickets to continue the discussion 
> there.
>
>     Thanks!
>
>
>
>
>
>     Am 02.06.2017 um 00:14 schrieb Chris Koerner:
>>     Hey Karsten,
>>     It looks like David asked a few clarifying questions in the
>>     thread that may have got lost in the mix. 
>>
>>     https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/discovery/2017-May/001526.html
>>     <https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/discovery/2017-May/001526.html>
>>
>>     If I missed a reply somewhere, I apologize. :)
>>
>>     Yours,
>>     Chris Koerner
>>     Community Liaison - Discovery
>>     Wikimedia Foundation
>>
>>     On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 12:10 PM, [[kgh]]
>>     <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>>         Heiya,
>>
>>         I am still in a kinda misery concering this. It will be cool
>>         if anyone
>>         could either confirm that this is a bug or that I have done
>>         something
>>         wrong - ideally plus some advice.
>>
>>         Thanks and cheers
>>
>>         Karsten
>>
>>         Am 18.05.2017 um 18:18 schrieb [[kgh]]:
>>         > Heiya Pine,
>>         >
>>         > thanks a lot for forwarding my e-mail to discovery. Did not
>>         think about
>>         > this list. I just subscribed for me to be able staying in
>>         the loop on this.
>>         >
>>         > It will be very cool to learn what may cause this problem
>>         once people a
>>         > back in office. To have a somewhat operational search, even
>>         in a
>>         > rudimentary form without Cirrus/Elastica will be great. MW
>>         1.23 was
>>         > still doing this.
>>         >
>>         > Keeping fingers crossed and thanks a lot again
>>         >
>>         > Cheers
>>         >
>>         > Karsten
>>         >
>>         >
>>         > Am 17.05.2017 um 04:31 schrieb Pine W:
>>         >> Cross-posting this to the Discovery mailing list with
>>         hopes that someone
>>         >> from WMF Discovery can shed some light on this situation.
>>         >>
>>         >> Pine
>>         >>
>>         >>
>>         >> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Tom <[email protected]
>>         <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>         >>
>>         >>> I actually think there is a drop in page content results
>>         too. Searching
>>         >>> for example, pages using a tag <FooBar>text</FooBar>
>>         would report content
>>         >>> found in x pages. Now search <FooBar> no content in pages
>>         found. Search
>>         >>> <FooBar no > found on 3 pages but expect 50.
>>         >>>
>>         >>> I do want to do more testing. Rebuilding the index seems
>>         to be super fast
>>         >>> unlike before which would take up to a few minutes to
>>         complete.
>>         >>>
>>         >>> Tom
>>         >>>
>>         >>>> On May 15, 2017, at 10:02 AM, [[kgh]]
>>         <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>         wrote:
>>         >>>>
>>         >>>> Heiya,
>>         >>>>
>>         >>>> it's me again. :) Does somebody at least see the issue.
>>         Probably a bug
>>         >>>> that should be reported?
>>         >>>>
>>         >>>> Thanks and cheers
>>         >>>>
>>         >>>> Karsten
>>         >>>>
>>         >>>>
>>         >>>>> Am 09.05.2017 um 16:32 schrieb [[kgh]]:
>>         >>>>> Heiya,
>>         >>>>>
>>         >>>>> I have upgraded from 1.23 to 1.27 which was now
>>         possible since the
>>         >>>>> latest release.
>>         >>>>>
>>         >>>>> After the process I observe a changed behavior
>>         regarding the rudimentary
>>         >>>>> full-text search MediaWiki provides out of the box,
>>         i.e. I am not
>>         >>>>> talking about the Cirrus/Elastica duo available as an
>>         extra.
>>         >>>>>
>>         >>>>> When adding a search term to the search field on MW
>>         1.27 like e.g.
>>         >>>>> "Lorem ipsum" (note: including the ") than only the
>>         page names for the
>>         >>>>> findings are shown and not the page names and some text
>>         extract wrapping
>>         >>>>> the searched term as MW 1.23 did. When adding just
>>         Lorem ipsum (note:
>>         >>>>> excluding the ") I get the page names and some text
>>         extract wrapping the
>>         >>>>> searched term as I did with 1.23. The results for Lorem
>>         ipsum however
>>         >>>>> are a much worse fit than for "Lorem ipsum" so that's
>>         why I am here.
>>         >>>>>
>>         >>>>> Perhaps I missed some setting I now have to make or
>>         perhaps there is
>>         >>>>> some script I overlooked to get things running. I'd
>>         like to get the
>>         >>>>> wrapping text back. Pointers highly appreciated.
>>         >>>>>
>>         >>>>> Thanks for your time
>>         >>>>>
>>         >>>>> Karsten
>>         >>>>>
>>         >>>>>
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