Hi Ted, Marshall, and Others, I'm still running Tiger, so this may not be the best source of information for someone who wants Leopard-specific instructions. However, this is how I use bookmarks in Safari under Tiger. You can probably modify this for Leopard, and you may also be able to use the new VoiceOver drag and drop features under Leopard.
The quick overview is that you can use Command-Option-b to display a web page of your bookmarks that consists of two areas where you can interact: a table where you can choose your "folders" and an outline that consists of the bookmarks and sub-folders under each selected folder. You can create new folders in each area using buttons that you reach with VO-keys+down arrow or with menu bar/keyboard shortcut commands. When you come to a page that you want to bookmark in Safari, you can use two different keyboard shortcuts: Command+d which is the general "Add Bookmark" command listed in the Bookmarks menu on the Safari menu bar, where you will be prompted for the category and sub-folder in which you want to save the bookmark, as well as the name you want to assign it, and Command-shift+d, which adds the name of the current page to the list of bookmarks that show up under the Bookmarks menu on the Safari menu bar. You can navigate to bookmarks either using the Bookmarks Bar in Safari (toggled on or off from the View menu or with the shortcut Command-Shift-b), the Bookmarks menu o the Safari menu bar, or from the Bookmarks page (with its table and outline) that is toggled on and off with Command-Option-b. The Bookmarks page is the most general location, and is where you will do your organization by selecting bookmarks or folders, deleting entries, copying and pasting, editing bookmarks, etc. In addition to the table, outline, and buttons for adding folders, there is a search field for finding bookmarks that match the text in your search string. These results are displayed in the outline. For more detail, continue reading below. Bookmarks or what Internet Explorer called "Favorites" are arranged on a page that you can display from the Bookmarks menu on the Safari menu bar by choosing "Show All Bookmarks" or via the keyboard shortcut, VO-keys+b (where VO-keys means holding down the Control and Option keys at the same time). If you have not already done so, go to the View menu on the Safari menu bar (VO-keys+m to go to the menu bar, type "V" to go to the View menu, and arrow down) and hide the address bar, bookmarks bar, and status bar to simplify navigation for this page. If you tab through the Bookmarks page, you'll find a table that lists collections of bookmarks, and an outline that lists individual bookmarks or folders of bookmarks for each collection. Interact with the table (VO-keys+shift+down arrow) and use VO-keys+down arrow to select your collection. Items listed here might be: Bookmarks Bar Bookmarks Menu Address Book Bonjour History All RSS Feeds News Kids Sports Entertainment Shopping etc. If you exported your favorites from Internet Explorer as an html file (e.g., "favorites.html"), you can add these to your Safari bookmarks by using the "Import Bookmarks" option under the File menu on the Safari menu bar and selecting this file in the finder-like window that opens. Similarly, you can save a backup copy of your current bookmarks menu by using the "Export Bookmarks" option under the File menu on the Safari menu bar (VO-keys+m, type "F" to go to the File menu, arrow down, type "E" to go to "Export Bookmarks", return, and fill in the name for the file you wish to save and choose the folder location from the popup button in the window that appears; press return when done or navigate to the cancel button.) Once you've selected a collection in the table, you can tab to the outline, interact, and VO-keys+down arrow to a bookmark listed under that collection. Each item will have a bookmark name and an address. (VO-keys+shift-C tells you the name of each column header -- "Bookmark" or "Address", just as it does in Finder). To edit a bookmark name, select it, press return, and type a new name. To go to the bookmarked page, just press spacebar. (Command+left bracket to go back to the bookmarks page). You can add new folders to the Collections table or to the Bookmarks Outline by using the "Add Bookmark Folder" (Command-Shift+n) command from the Bookmark menu of the Safari menu bar when you are either in the Collections table or in the Bookmarks Outline. You can also add new folders for collections or bookmarks by using the "New Collections" or "Add Bookmarks Folder" buttons on the bookmarks page. For example, stop interacting with the Collections table, VO-keys+down arrow to the "New Collections" button, VO-keys+space to press the button. You'll hear "Untitled Folder, Edit Text", and be placed at the end of the list of bookmark collections. Enter a name for you new bookmark collection. Similarly, from the Bookmarks Outline, stop interacting and VO-keys down arrow to hear "New Folder button". Pressing the button (VO-keys+space) adds a folder to the end of the Bookmarks Outline, and you'll again be prompted to enter a name. One difference between using the button command to add a folder and the Bookmarks menu command (or shortcut) is that the button always adds a folder to the end of the list of bookmarks for your selected category, whereas the menu bar command or shortcut Command-Shift+n issued while you are in the Bookmarks outline will add the folder just after your current position in the outline. (Note, I have "Mouse Cursor tracks VoiceOver Cursor" set in my VoiceOver navigation options, so this result might depend on the Mouse Cursor position; you might get a different result with Cursor tracking turned off.) Folders in the bookmarks outline can be collapsed or expanded with Command-Option-backslash. When you browse with Safari and come to a page that you want to bookmark, the shortcut "Command+d" will save a bookmark to your bookmarks page. You'll be prompted for a bookmark name (VO-keys+right arrow to the text field to enter this), and a popup button (reached with a further VO-keys+right arrow) will let you choose the collection, folder, or subfolder to save this to. (General rules of using VO-keys+space for the popup button, using the arrow keys and or typing the start of the folder name to navigate, and escape to quit the popup or drop-down menu without making selections apply here. Similarly, you can use VO-keys+END -- VO-keys+fn+right arrow on my laptop -- to take you to the menu's "Apply" button, or simply carriage return to enter your selections. I tend to use "return" and "escape" instead of the "apply" and "cancel" buttons on menus.) You can check the bookmark location by navigating back to the bookmarks page with VO-keys+b. To finish describing VoiceOver tab navigation of the bookmarks page, after the Collections table and the Bookmarks outline, tab takes you to the "New Collections" button, then the "New Folder" button, and finally to the "Search Text Field". When you type in a search term here, matching results for all collections will be reported in the Bookmarks Outline. You can tab back to the outline, interact, and examine the search results. Be advised that this will also include any results from your recent search history. I prefer to search the bookmarks page with Command+f. This will take me to the first instance that matches my search string, with the starting point for the search being my currently selected bookmark collection (and bookmark or folder in the bookmarks outline, if selected) or else the beginning of the collections listed in the table. If I tab to the Collections Table and interact, I can see which collection my first "found" bookmark falls into. If I then tab to the Bookmarks Outline and interact, I will find the the matching bookmark entry in the middle of my other bookmarks for that collection. Command+g will find the next bookmark entry matching my search. The advantage of this search method is that if I first select a particular category, my search will start from there and not, for example, from History or from RSS feeds. I can also check matching entries in the context of my surrounding bookmarks in that category. A few final tips: The first nine items on the "Bookmarks Bar" have special status: not only are these items shown when the Bookmarks Bar is displayed, but they can be accessed with the keyboard shortcuts, command+1, command+2, etc. from Safari. This works whether or not the Bookmarks Bar is hidden. Most VoiceOver users hide the address bar and the bookmarks bar so these entries don't appear when you navigate with tab or VO-keys+arrow keys, and so they aren't included when you bring up item chooser, or read the window, etc. If you want to have certain bookmarks be available from the Safari menu bar, you can save them to the "Bookmarks Menu" (either automatically with Command+Shift+d or with the Command+d option that allows you specify the bookmark name and location -- choosing this to be the "Bookmarks Menu") If you use VO-keys+m to go to the Safari menu bar, type "b" to go to the Bookmarks menu, and arrow down, you'll find the Bookmarks Bar as one of the options (right arrow to the submenu and arrow down for the Bookmarks Bar entries and/or type "V" to get to "View All RSS Articles"), and below that the Bookmarks Menu bookmarks. This is not about bookmarks, but I use the Google search bar a lot. To quickly navigate to this I use the shortcut Command-Option+f. This works even when the address bar is hidden. You can also copy and paste URLs to and from the address locations under the bookmarks outline of the "Show All Bookmarks" page. This is how I enter bookmarks to podcast pages at the iTunes Store if I have a URL. I check these by pasting into the address bar (command+l) and pressing return (and then checking my iTunes songs outline). You can also put in "bookmarklets" by copying from a link and pasting in a bookmark. As previously mentioned "Categories" that you can reach on the bookmarks page can include your history, bookmarked RSS feeds, websites of contacts in your Address book (depending on how your have your Safari Bookmarks preferences configured). There have also been posts in the mailing list archives for this list for other useful Safari apps, such as Darcy's post about Sogudi, a freeware app that provides shortcuts for both visiting and searching favorite web pages. http://www.kitzkikz.com/Sogudi HTH Cheers, Esther On February 28, 2008, at 11:51AM, Marshall F. Scott wrote: >It can be done. The first step is to use "SHow Bookmarks" in the >Bookmarks menu You will see two areas and at this point things get >complicated.. I'll have to go back and play with it to give you exact >steps. I'll e-mail you tomorrow with instructions. (If I can come up >with some that make sense!) >Marshall > >On Feb 28, 2008, at 1:43 AM, David Poehlman wrote: > >> There was no response the first time, perhaps there will be this >> time. I >> don't know of a way to do this. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "L. T. Reed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 2:59 AM >> Subject: Organizing Bookmarks in Safari with Leopard >> >> >> I requested help on this topic earlier but didn't notice any >> response - >> perhaps I missed it! Here it is again. >> >> Has anybody been able to organize website bookmarks in folders and >> use them >> to access their favourite sites? If so, could you explain how to do >> this >> and how to use the bookmarks once you have them? >> >> Regards, >> >> Ted. >> >> >> > >Marshall F. scott >University of Utah - CVRTI >95 South 2000 East >Salt Lake City, UT 84112 >Phone: (801) 587-9523 >Fax: (801) 581-3128 >E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Skype: scott9576a > > > > > >
